Thank you, Stephen. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 8:16 PM Stephen Guerin <[email protected]> wrote: > > *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith <[email protected] > <[email protected]>> wrote:* > >> *THE Ralph Abraham >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abraham_(mathematician)>? Or the >> OTHER Ralph Abraham >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abraham_(politician)>? Or Yet >> Another... ?* >> > Yes, the first :-) > > > *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith <[email protected] > <[email protected]>> wrote:* > >> *The Trialogues >> <https://www.sheldrake.org/videos/trialogues-at-the-edge-of-the-millennium> >> comes to mind... I didn't realize how young McKenna was when he passed >> just a few years later. I still can't get past most of Sheldrake's >> hyperbolic-woo-pseudoscientific framing, and do wonder at how Abraham sorts >> all that out internally. It isn't surprising to find a pure Maths guy >> engaged in very mystical thinking, no fundamental contradictions required I >> don't think.* >> > Ralph credited some high-dimensional math insights to hallucinatory > experiences with DMT - an interest shared with McKenna. As you know my > interest in Transactional Intepretation of QM > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation> with > "advanced" reverse-time waves "handshaking" time-forward "retarded" waves, > Sheldrake's morphic resonance fields aren't too many nodes of crazy away > from me - though, I prefer the duality of woo-oow science :-) > > > *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith <[email protected] > <[email protected]>> wrote:* > >> *I don't think I've ever met Ralph and I could never quite suss out how >> much influence he had directly (certainly indirectly?) on >> Shaw/Farmer/Packard/Crutchfield's "Chaos Cabal"... * >> > UCSC Faculty Bill Burke and Ralph were supporters of the Cabal as they > worked on their PhDs with some shared pub credits. Rob refers to Burke as > the Godfather to the group. (mentioned in the Gleick's chapter on Santa > Cruz that you linked to). > > Last time I saw Ralph in Santa Fe, I asked him about the group and > that Rob was with us at SFx. He said "Rob was the smartest one" - high > praise given the other three :-) > > Full disclosure: I once slept with Ralph's brother, Fred, director of the > Blueberry institute <http://www.blueberry-brain.org/>. They were out of > hotel rooms at the SCTPLS 2002 Portland conference, and Fred asked to bunk > with me :-) > > *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith <[email protected] > <[email protected]>> wrote: * > >> *Does anyone know how to find Julia Landau's strange documentary >> tangenting "Strange Attractors <https://vimeo.com/129239092>"? * >> > Such a cool project.You can see it trying to get off the ground in 2008. > <http://reelchanges.org/projects/show/ef3718b0-4176-012b-7345-005056c00008/> > I > emailed Rob in 2013 to find out status and he said Julia was still looking > for funding to complete. Beyond the trailer, did you notice: > Clip 1 Intro <https://vimeo.com/344238322> > Clip 2 - Imagining Rob, Meeting Howard <https://vimeo.com/344238191> > Clip 3 - Finding Rob in Chaos Theory <https://vimeo.com/344238021> > Finding Rob in the Chaos <https://vimeo.com/136946323> > > I ran into Rob in Honolulu in 2017 - I asked him about it again and still > the same status. > > BTW, check out the other couple of clips on Julia's Vimeo. I found her > father's "will the real terrorist standup <https://vimeo.com/125292604>" > somewhere online about the Cuban Five. When I was in Havana with Tom > Johnson for ABM Workshops he helped organize, I learned more about the > Cuban Five and for a couple years followed all news stories and histories I > could find on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles and > Americam-sponsored terrorism in Cuba. Pretty f&#ked up. > > > *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith <[email protected] > <[email protected]>> wrote:* > >> *Gleick's book <https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.4822680> was >> the first time I realized that Doyne and Norm came from Silver City, and >> then I discovered that my sister with to Kindergarten with Norm's brother >> Vance... Rob used to hang out at SFx from time to time and his brother >> Chris would drop through and talk about his Haptek-sponsored >> "chatterbot"/avatar/PeoplePutty work: >> https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/haptek/chris-shaw-talk-at-chatbots-3-2/ >> <https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/haptek/chris-shaw-talk-at-chatbots-3-2/> >> which was pretty advanced, considering what we are getting excited about >> with deepfakes/AI-art these days. I knew Haptek when it formed originally >> to develop haptic hardware interfaces for VR a decade earlier... * >> > Cool, hadn't seen Chris's chatbot video. And in addition to illustrating > Rob's papers and books, I think you know about Chris and Ralph Abrham's > collaboration on the four volume classic Dynamics: Geometry of Behavior > <https://www.amazon.com/Dynamics-Geometry-Behavior-Ralph-Abraham/dp/0201567172> > with > Chris providing beautiful technical illustrations of attractors and > dynamical flow fields. > > On 10/14/22 12:56 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: >> >> What did everyone think about this last hearing? I watched it with Ralph >> Abraham, whom some of you might know of. He is visiting me for a week here >> in Santa Fe and had some interesting perspectives on our present politics. >> >> Of course Ralph and I are also having fun conversations about the >> ever-present and unknowable electromagnetic field. Life is good, despite >> the possibility that I am but a hologram in a random universe heading down >> a Black Hole. >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:56 AM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Several people, including me, want to watch the hearing. When I left >>> Dave West and Jon Z were the only ones there. >>> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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