On 11/5/22 10:50 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
I'll leave this here then:
http://web.archive.org/web/20160112000701/http://www.timecube.com/
and no it doesn't make sense.
Geeze Gil! What are you trying to do to me? That lead to some
serious Klein-Bottle Navel-Gazing!
On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Good one Carl/Ken ...
And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks
to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals
for everyday measures and calculations).
As a child, WWV was one of the very few constant signals I could
tune in on my parent's antique (even then) "Zenith Wave Magnet"
they let me keep in my bedroom... I can still see the dull orange
glow seeping out of the back of the set when the tubes were
cooking... now-adays when I fire it up I also smell the dust
burning off. Deeply visceral... "beep, beep, beep..." WWV-Fort
Collins.
I haven't cared "much" about DST in any part of my life... it has
just been an opportunity to stir the pot and be contrarian about
something I know to be arbitrarily arbitrary really. Same for
metric/english/archaic measures. All those things exist for good
reason even if they persist for bad ones.
On 11/4/22 10:45 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
OK, then. Ken Nordine on Time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:33 PM Gillian Densmore
<[email protected]> wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022.
steeeve
It's a BFD to me because of GP. mucking about with the clock
a ruining winter is dumb.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:26 PM glen <[email protected]> wrote:
Honestly, I just don't get why it's such a big deal.
Sure, it's obsolete. And maybe it kills a few people,
raises cortisol, etc. But there are so many other things
that affect our (sleep) cycles soooooo much more, like
obesity, alcoholism, wage slavery, TikTok fomo, ... on
and on. Passing such a law feels like rearranging the
deck chairs on the Titanic. Or maybe complaining about
how a reporter discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular"
... an odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads
your way.
On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote:
>
> On 11/4/22 4:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>> Didn't the sunshine act already pass? but yes I agree
I despise the clock change bull sh**** It takes effect
next year unless Turtle neck had his usual tantrum.
>
> From the linked article:
>
> /Earlier this year, the U.S. Senate unanimously
passed bipartisan legislation to abolish clock changes
and make daylight saving time permanent, beginning in
2023. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, introduced////the
Sunshine Protection Act
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>//,
and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, was among the co-sponsors./
>
> /"Glad the Senate has passed the Sunshine
Protection Act so Oregonians aren’t springing back &
forth each year in a silly exercise that hurts
everybody’s health & our economy," Wyden tweeted March
15. "Time now for the House to act."/
>
> /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the
bill, which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in
December./
>
> /Let the debate resume in March 2023./
>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock
changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act
<https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>would
put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the
"wrong side" with a year-round DST timesqew. Looks like
it is going to fail despite bipartisan support in the
Senate (unsurprising that Florida, closest to the
equator, effected least, would be the one to
sponsor/promote it?)...
>>
>> Oregon (in coordination with CA/WA) have tried to
take things into their own hands independent of the rest
of the country?
>>
>>
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/
>>
>>
>> I suppose I could live with the sqew and just
change the idioms from 12 noon and 12 midnight to 11 noon
and 11 midnight and call it a day/year/life. Seems like
it would just make more sense to sqew the 8-5 (or 9-4)
for bankers) an hour earlier instead, but what is the
point of having a state/federal/global government if it
isn't going to decide for you how we index time?
>>
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