I have been reading Jeff Hawkins' _1000 Brains_ which is roughly *his* take on AI from the perspective of the Neuroscience *he* has been doing for a few decades, including building models of the neocortex.

What struck me strongly was how much *I* expect anything I'd want to call artificial *consciousness* to engage in "co-munnication" in the strongest sense.  Glen regularly admonishes us that "communication" may be an illusion and something we don't actually *do* or maybe more to the the point "it doesn't mean what we think it means"?

So for all the parlor tricks I've enjoyed playing with chatGPT and DALL-E and maybe even more spectacularly the myriad examples *others* have teased out of those systems, I am always looking for what sort of "internal state" these systems are exposing to me in their "utterances".   And by extension, I am looking to see if it is in any way apprehending *me* through my questions and prompts.

Dialog with chatGPT feels pretty familiar to me, as if I'm conversing with an unusually polite and cooperative polymath.   It is freeing to feel I can ask "it" any question which I can formulate and can expect back a pretty *straight* answer if not always one I was hoping for.  "It" seems pretty insightful and usually picks up on the nuances of my questions.   As often as not, I need to follow up with refined questions which channel the answers away from the "mundane or obvious" but when I do, it rarely misses a trick or is evasive or harps on something from it's own (apparent) agenda.  It only does that when I ask it questions about it's own nature, formulation, domain and then it just seems blunted as if it has a lawyer or politician intercepting some of those questions and answering them for it.

I have learned to "frame" my questions by first asking it to defer it's response until I've given it some ... "framing" for the actual question.   Otherwise I go through the other series of steps where I have to re-ask the same question with more and more context or ask a very long and convoluted question.  At first it was a pleasure to be able to unlimber my convoluted-question-generator and have it (not mis) understand me and even not seem to "miss a trick".   As I learned to generate several framing statements before asking my question, I have found that I *can* give it too many constraints (apparently) such that it respects some/most of my framing but then avoids or ignores other parts.  At that point I have to ask follow-up, elaborating, contextualizing questions.

I do not yet feel like I am actually seeing into chatGPT's soul or in any way being seen by it.   That will be for a future generation I suspect.   Otherwise it is one hella "research assistant" and "spitball partner" on most any topic I've considered that isn't too contemporary (training set ended 2021?).

- Steve

On 4/4/23 5:54 PM, Prof David West wrote:
Based on the flood of stories about ChatAI, it appears:
   - they can 'do' math and 'reason' scientificdally
   - they can generate essays, term papers, etc.
   - they can engage in convincing dialog/conversations
     - as "therapists"
     - as "girlfriends" (I haven't seen any stories about women falling in love 
with their AI)
     - as kinksters
   - they can write code

The writing code ability immediately made me wonder if, given a database of 
music instead of text, they could write music?

The dialog /conversation ability makes me wonder about more real-time 
collaborative interaction, improv acting / comedy? Or, pair programming? The 
real-time aspect is critical to my question, as I believe there is something 
qualitatively different between two people doing improv or pair programming 
than simply engaging in dialog. I think I could make a much stronger argument 
in the case of improv music, especially jazz, but AIs aren't doing that yet.

davew

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