I am not a big fan of Sabine. Her book "Lost in math" is too pessimistic and 
too negative for me. She earns money from her YouTube video channel. The more 
sensational the content, the more clicks. That being said I agree that climate 
change is one of the biggest problems, and the outlook is not good.If we don't 
act now temperatures will rise inevitably, and there is a real possibility our 
economies will collapse. But if we prohibit all fossil fuels now our economies 
will collapse too, because they depend on it. Airplanes, ships, trucks, cars, 
heatings in our homes, plastic products,... everything is based on fossil 
fuels. What our leaders do is take they planes and private jets to fly to 
climate conferences and economic forums where they agree on lofty goals but 
when they return it is business as usual. What we can do is voting for better 
politics - besides getting an emission free car, using electric trains and 
public transport, switching to sustainable energy, using less plastic, etc. 
Eventually it will also mean less travelling by plane and cruise ships. This 
means no longer vacation in exotic places - but imagine how much better the air 
in our cities would be if the majority of cars are emission free.-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Russ Abbott <[email protected]> 
Date: 1/27/24  10:01 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: ICE - debora shuger 
<[email protected]>, Rob Watson <[email protected]>, Richard Abbott 
<[email protected]>, "Michael, Maria, and Luna Abbott-Whitley/Penado" 
<[email protected]>, Danielle Abbott-Whitley <[email protected]>, 
"Whitley, Julian" <[email protected]>, Dale Shuger <[email protected]>, 
The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: 
[FRIAM] Bad news about the climate I apologize for this relatively mass email. 
It was prompted by a video by Sabine Hossenfelder,  Sabine is a theoretical 
physicist who has spent much of her recent life as a popular science writer and 
video maker. See her Wikipedia page.The video linked to above talks about 
climate models. The bottom line is that it appears that most of the current 
models have underestimated how quickly earth will warm. The consequences are 
frightening.  -- Russ Abbott                                       Professor 
Emeritus, Computer ScienceCalifornia State University, Los Angeles
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