without Owen here to keep us on track with thread hygiene I'll
self-report... I realize I am often guilty of thread-bending if not
outright thread-jacking... what is the difference? Haboob/Derecho,
Jack/Bend? Inquiring minds wanna know...
following up on the *weather* aspect of this thread, my short acute
windstorm experience yielded about 6 power glitches that lasted less
than 5 seconds each. I'm guessing the wind severity direction was
enough to actually cause some nearby overhead high voltage wires to come
close enough to touch/arc? I know dense smoke can yield (plasma
formation) arcing? The system apparently recovered very quickly which
is unusual in our poorly maintained COOP. The Cerro Grande fire was
triggered by a (windfall?) downed powerline as I remember it.
On 6/20/24 9:21 AM, steve smith wrote:
does the NWS/etc even have an entry in their warning system for "haboob"?
I'm not that clear on the difference from RECs "derecho"... GPTs
differentiation wasn't particularly helpful in this case. Wikipedia's
entries were a little more helpful with a suggestion that the derecho
is driven before a storm front while a haboob, also associated is more
of a down and outflow of cold air flowing away from the front.
Wikipedia suggests that NM does experience haboobs. I've been in a
few conditions on reflection might have been such where the dust-storm
front not only preceded the storm front but in fact the storm front
itself never arrived?
At my location, (Otowi bridge crossing the Rio Grande just at the
northern pinch-point between Buckman Mesa and the foothill mesas of
the Jemez outflow) We had a severe half-hour of wind, rain and (small)
hail.... only unique in it's acute intensity and brevity... we do
often get a certain type of weather concentration as the topography
9both local and regional) funnels something right over us.
FWIW, since Guerin turned me on to flight-tracker, I've been able to
add evidence to my understanding that Otowi Bridge itself is a VFR
waypoint so a lot of smaller planes may well fly at least within sight
of the landmark so they can re-vector toward their next
waypoint/destination. So the same location seems to "focus"
civilian air traffic as well. The rio grande also seems to be a
corridor for military/police helicopters... there seem to be a "pair"
who meet roughly over my house, one northbound, the other southbound.
I'm guessing a Military training program out of ABQ possibly coupled
with a ATF/State-Police drug-surveillance related activity.
I was looking because I wanted to see if Musk's LANL visit included
one of his private jets in/out of LAM airport. I didn't confirm. I
suppose if it were too easy, his jet would have gotten the same orange
paint as StoneHenge and Taylor Swift recently?
On 6/20/24 6:18 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
We had a couple of power glitches, a high wind warning, and a severe
storm warning all between 6 and 7 pm. The sky went apocalyptic for a
while. The clouds had been massing east of the Organs earlier. No
haboob warning, but the high wind warning was pushed to SMS and
included the usual cautions about how to drive when you can't see
anything in the dust. The derecho in the satellite picture is all
west of us, you can see the lights of Las Cruces and El Paso at one
point in the video.
-- rec --
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 11:05 PM Stephen Guerin
<[email protected]> wrote:
NIck,
Check out this Haboob moving across southern NM / northern Mexico
satellite animation:
https://guerin.acequia.io/incidents/HaboobAndSouthForkFire_20240619_2.mp4
Roger, did you experience it?
This while Ruidoso experiences Post Fire Debris Flow flooding and
loss of 2,400 structures
-Stephen
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