In Germany politicians are horrified by the duel and argue that Biden should 
step back and retire. Both candidates are too old, and the mere thought that 
Trump - a convicted felon - might be elected again despite all he has done is 
horrifying. Maybe democrats could give Kamala Harris the chance to become the 
first female president? But I don't know how popular she is. If president Biden 
steps back now then democrats have enough time to pick a suitable candidate. He 
did well but is too old for a 2nd term. We can not risk Trump becoming 
president again. 
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/joe-biden-gegen-donald-trump-deutsche-politik-entsetzt-ueber-tv-duell-a-ebf216eb-aa7b-4ce4-904f-e0794f948e4bScottish
 historian Niall Ferguson says the United States look increasingly like the 
late Soviet Union: senescent leaders who are far too old, a bloated military, a 
loss of morality and public cynicism about all 
institutions.https://www.thefp.com/p/were-all-soviets-now-J.
-------- Original message --------From: steve smith <[email protected]> Date: 
6/29/24  12:06 AM  (GMT+01:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [FRIAM] the world 
is watching us... What are our Non-USA members hearing/thinking after last 
night's debate/debacle?I felt that Biden's Rally today was something necessary 
for him (and Jill and the DNC) to do to demonstrate that last night was some 
kind of anomaly, but it doesn't erase it, just cleanses the palate a little 
bit.   I've also been listening to the various "who should the DNC pick in his 
place?" talk which is 'natural' but maybe premature to do publicly?I did listen 
to an European channel this morning (can't remember if it was England or 
German, both have British accented commentators) and there was a report of a 
strong "hands-off" response from their leaders.   Moscow did pretty much 
exactly what you would expect... I haven't heard anything from the Middle East, 
Africa, India, China, Southeast Asia or South America yet, but I would expect 
the "free world" to be disturbed no matter how things unfold down the line.In 
the vernacular, I'd like to believe that we could "elect a ham sandwich" 
against the likes of Trump, but that is obviously a biased opinion... maybe we 
*should* but that isn't the same as *can*.I don't see how the "West" benefits 
in any way from another Trump term...   Russia, NK, China maybe?   BRICS in the 
large, maybe some kind of wash?   Central/South/MX America?   Can't look too 
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