Interesting thoughts. The use of "atavism" in the context of social systems is 
interesting, but it is not new. Joseph Schumpeter has used the term atavism to 
explain the outbreak of World War I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtavismI 
believe authoritarian organization is not the exception, it is the rule. A 
pecking order or "dominance hierarchy" is the most common order in social 
groups and almost all organizations, corporations and companies. Even among 
chickens in farms or apes in 
zoos.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchyThe opposite of 
authoritarian organization is an egalitarian society where everybody is equal. 
In his book "Warlike and Peaceful Societies", Agner Fogar agues that people 
tend to prefer one of these two types depending on the situation. His regality 
theory says "people will show a psychological preference for a strong leader 
and strict discipline if they live in a society full of conflict and danger, 
while people in a peaceful and safe environment will prefer an egalitarian and 
tolerant culture"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regality_theory-J.
Inters-------- Original message --------From: [email protected] Date: 
10/17/24  12:08 AM  (GMT+01:00) To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity 
Coffee Group' <[email protected]> Subject: [FRIAM] On Evolutionary Atavism On 
Evolutionary AtavismMy so-called mind is still churning from our conversation 
about evolutionary atavism,  the idea that current behavioral systems may be 
ill-suited to contemporary circumstances.   As an evolutionary psychologist I 
should be for it; however, as a survivor of the instinct wars of the 1950’s, I 
should be against it.  Where am I?  The problem with evolutionary atavism 
arises when people start attributing any necessity to it.  Natural selection 
would not be possible if organisms did not offer up structures and behaviors 
that are maladapted.  Evolution could not have occurred if organisms did not 
respond to these maladaptations with adaptive changes.  Evolution is a dynamic 
between change and stability and the interesting question is why some things 
change while others don’t, and why some changes occur more rapidly than others. 
Asserting that some things are the same as they were a million years ago 
because they didn’t happen to change is just silly.Still, evolutionary atavism 
does play a role in my thinking.  Let’s work an example together and see what 
that role is and whether it is justified.  I listened with guilty pleasure to 
Obama’s address ridiculing MAGA thinking.  My pleasure was guilty because I 
thought his speech would make Trump more likely to win the election.    This 
conclusion arose from an evolutionary hypothesis about the origins of charisma. 
 The logic, such as it is, goes like this. The modern human species arose 
160kyrs ago from a very small number of small groups.  That the human species 
passed through a severe bottleneck at it inception is probably true; that it 
was composed of small group at that time is a plausible surmise.Those groups 
were engaged in intense competition at the bottleneck.  This statement is 
reasonable but not supported by any data I can think of. Therefore, they 
survived or failed as groups.  Again, merely plausible.Those groups survived 
that were capable of rapid concerted action. This is based on the idea that in 
emergencies it is most important for every to do some thing, rather than for 
them to wait and work out the best thing to do. Barely plausible. Not even 
clear how one would go about researching it. Groups capable of shifting to an 
authoritarian organization in response to a perceived existential threat 
survived in greater numbers than those that didn’t.Humans, therefore, are 
inclined to put their faith in a single person when they perceive an 
existential threat.  Let’s call this the “Charismer Response”The person most 
likely to be selected for this role is apparently single-minded and decisive.  
This gives us the characteristics of a Charismer,  Charismees relinquish their 
capacity for independent rational thought in favor of the Charismer’s 
decision-making. Charismees receive benefits from the group in proportion to 
their demonstrations of surrender of rationality.Charismees demostrate their 
surrender by the repetition of o  or more flagrantly irrational beliefs. (virgi 
birth, stole election ,  etc.)Challenges to these beliefs only increase 
charismees allegiance to the groupTherefore, Obama should have kept his 
smarty-pants mouth shut. You all can evaluate the heuristic, rationality, and 
probability of this argument.  I am going to stop now because my keyboard has 
stopped reliably producing “n’s”  ad is drivig me uts.  At best, I think 
evolutionary atavism is a source of plausible hypotheses about why organisms 
are not adapted to their current circumstances.  See some of you tomorrow. 
Sicerely, ick  
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