On 1/20/25 8:04 AM, glen wrote:
Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. Judith once called me "poisonous" ... or maybe it was "toxic". I'll have to check my email archives. So I doubt my contribution would be well-received. She later back-tracked and lowered her estimation of me to something like "ignorant" or "contrarian" or somesuch, like being demoted from Villain to redshirt <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red+shirt>. Even if I didn't go, the submission-rejection process would be fun. I'll see if I can come up with a topic. >8^D

I think Judith might have been channeling our own Doug Roberts? I know *I* have used "contrarian" for you but it was intended to be a term of endearment not dismissal, though I do understand how "merely contrarian" might feel implied?   I know I tend toward kneejerk contrarian around technoutopian sentiments.

I had no idea you were already engaged with this community.   I was unaware of that Robert's daughter had taken up his legacy (reminds me a bit of the Mead/Bateson, Dyson, Bertalanffly dynasties?

I listened to the Systems Thinking Ontario 2023: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ol5Q12G7P4 to get a bead on the tenor of Judith's perspectives.  I don't see any specific reference to Judith at the MX workshop but I'm guessing nothing Rossenian happens in public without Judith invited/participating?



On 1/20/25 6:15 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
Glen,

I saw Carlos Getshenson posted this in Complexity Digest today.

https://anticipation.philcomp.org/ <https://anticipation.philcomp.org/>

If FRIAM raised the dollars from its members, can we send you as its envoy to present and report back?

3/4 serious. 1/4 just a funny idea that we would have an envoy and imagine sending you out as our lead Rosennian philosophical sparring partner.



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