Right. But what's missing, what makes it a fallacy, is the lack of an estimate for that
"decent chance" ... along with any details about the encoding mechanism. Even with common
ontogenic pathways, we have to consider neuropolasticity and its limits. Dave's reference to
lesions "eliminating" some function or another have to reference neuroplasticity even if
only to eliminate it as a possibility. If it's true that some relatively large percentage of the
population has mirror capability across the hemispheres, then burning/vibrating lesions on one side
may or may not eliminate the function (controlling for the bilateral/mirrored population).
To be clear, I'm not doubting that such compositions *can* be done. I'm only
objecting to the confidence with which we assert them. The world is full of
mansplainers telling us they know what's going on and to simply trust them.
Pffft. As a natural born citizen who's unlikely to be deported, I feel OK
challenging such mansplaining. 8^D
On 3/26/25 11:32 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
My understanding is that neural architecture for things like hearing and vision
follows a common developmental trajectory if there aren’t faults like the
cochlea being damaged.
An image of a circle would have a decent chance of having a similar encoding in
different people, but a picture of a dog maybe not so much.
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But ... again:
"predictive modeling on short datasets acquired in single patients"
We're not *composing* the individuals into groups, as Dave (and McGilchrist)
seem to be doing. We're modeling individuals off data taken from individuals.
I'm a bit confused that I have to point this out.
On 3/26/25 8:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
This comes to mind..
https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/08/15/releases-20230811/
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This is the driver for my doubt. Last I paid attention, the inter-individual variation
for activation circuits swamped the intra-individual variation. So within one person, we
might be able to make reliable predictions. But this idea that "regions of the
brain" are activated in the same way, for the same tasks, across all (or most)
people is suspect. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
On 3/25/25 2:52 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Can Steve’s training read my mind? That’s my guess – we’re all sort of the
same with the same kind of encoding and decoding mechanisms.
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