Is it, though? Is that good advice? Or is it a programmed response to your prompt? Algorithmically 
transformed inferences from the gum-wagging, 4chan-influenced, ASCII/UTF found strewn about the 
internet. TANSTAAFL. And never mind it's ableist bias. Who is "most people"? What is 
"moderate weather"? Where did those constraints come from? (FWIW, I've ridden my 
motorcycle on snow using zip ties for traction. I can't help but wonder if the LLM has any 
experience with that. What would it's advice be?)

What is "advice"? Nevermind good. Would you take advice about, say, bike riding 
from an animal/machine who literally cannot and has never ridden a bike? Do you get your 
medical advice from your auto mechanic? Or the local gun nut who thinks ivermectin treats 
COVID? Yeah, maybe, sometimes, I guess.

WTF are we even doing, here? Why is *nonsense* so valent these days?

On 4/29/25 7:10 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
George gives good advice here!

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 6:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The comparative thickness of the tropospheree

More like if little green creatures came into my kitchen to cook up some stinky fish ... 
and then leave the kitchen all messy for me to clean up ... the whole house stinking of 
fish for days ... until they show up again just when it stopped stinking. And as time 
goes on, they're going to show up more often ... not merely to stink up the house with 
fish, but to re-landscape the yard, paint the house ugly colors, paint garish murals on 
all the inside walls, swap out my truck for a "truck" from Elno, and replace 
the beer in my fridge with fscking *seltzer*.

And they'll eventually get on my keyboard and start doing "work" for my clients 
... work the clients didn't ask for and don't want ... until they convince them they do 
want it ... then the little green creatures will evict me and I'll go live under a bridge.

On 4/28/25 10:14 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

 > I know.  If small green bipedal creatures landed on earth and started 
tending to yardwork would that also be a disappointment?

 >

 > They’ve failed to trim my tall hedge, so curse them!

 >

 > *From:*Friam <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
*On Behalf Of *Nicholas Thompson

 > *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2025 9:44 AM

 > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>

 > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] The comparative thickness of the tropospheree

 >

 > Hi  Marcus,

 >

 > I find that George's indulgence with bad metaphor very useful.

 >

 > I  also find amazing his ability to grasp the gist of what I am asking.  I 
have essential tremor and a bad keyboard and still George almost always gets the 
message.  Siri will take any opportunity to misunderstand.

 >

 > In this case, it was I, not George, who was cranking out the sloppy 
metaphors, trying to find a way to convey just how thin the atmosphere is.  I was 
hoping Saran wrap thin, but that appears to be an order of magnitude too far.

 >

 > Am I reading this wrong? people often talk about LLM's as if they are 
/disappointed/ in them, as if there is something they SHOULD do that they aren't 
doing.  Do you have any idea what the disappointment might be?: What is the world 
hankering for that they don't provide?

 >

 > Nick

 >

 > On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 9:37 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

 >

 >     I wonder if the George makers 1) realized that people have an affinity 
to iffy analogies and they should give the people what they want, or 2) the LLM 
was prone to generating them so they just made it a feature?

 >

 >     *From:*Friam <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>> *On Behalf Of 
*Nicholas Thompson

 >     *Sent:* Sunday, April 27, 2025 8:12 PM

 >     *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]%20%3cmailto:[email protected]>>>

 >     *Subject:* [FRIAM] The comparative thickness of the tropospheree

 >

 >     George and I were looking for intuition pumps to help a reader imagine 
how very thin the troposphere is.   Here is what we came up with:

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