Humans suffer from internal conflicts. They want incompatible things. This causes suffering from mild discomfort to pain causing suicide. I suppose this could be simulated but...
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jun 10, 2025, 3:27 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > This conversation is well into bad faith now. I’m done. > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *steve smith > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2025 2:24 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Free will—ghost in the machine or just clever > wiring? > > > > > > On 6/10/25 9:44 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Consider a robot with sensors roughly comparable to humans. > > The robot has access to all the energy it wants. It has a large memory > and generous computing resources. It has executive processes with onboard > state-of-the-art LLMs to access vast information and can run a wide variety > of appropriate programs to plan its next actions. It can use the LLMs to > write new programs. It can tune or fine-tune the LLMs constantly from new > data. It remembers its actions and their consequences. It has video and > audio recordings of every moment. It has time series data of its sensors > since it was activated. Because of its general self-tuning ability, any > guidance from its authors (like for the LLM) can be overridden. It has > americium-241 onboard hardware random number generator that drives its LLM > sampling and any other stochastic algorithm. > > > > Does this robot have free will? Why or why not? > > Probably not unless it's brain is *positronic*. > > For a *proof by anecdote*, read the corpus of Asimov's work. ;/ > > Then go release an Orca into the wild and holler "Free Willy" at the top > of your lungs. If you survive being arrested and convicted for your > declaration of putative "public exposure", then note that the entire global > population are taking up the practice of head-butting sailboats.... free > will much? > > The perils of Free Will(y)? > > > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / > ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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