Roger,

I am sorry.  I cant decode yourlast message.   Bye the bye, where are you
thee days?

Nick


On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 9:59 PM Roger Critchlow <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 6:09 PM Stephen Guerin <
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>> Nick,
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>> I read *Assembling a Chimney*  as a structural account of storm
>> formation rather than an energy-threshold story, and I found the clarity of
>> the chimney metaphor and diagrams especially strong. Your distinction
>> between notional and structural columns, and the way mixed layers, elevated
>> mixed layers, and jet-level dynamics incrementally assemble (and cap)
>> vertical coordination, makes clear that storms emerge when a continuous
>> pathway is constructed, not when a single variable crosses a threshold.
>>
>> In my language, what you call a “structural column” is a *constraint
>> geometry*: a configuration in which gradients stop acting merely as
>> local forces and instead define the geometry that motion follows. Your
>> consistent use of potential temperature (θ) already does this work. θ
>> functions as an ordering coordinate and stability metric that defines
>> vertical distance and curvature for parcel motion; mixed layers locally
>> flatten this geometry while sharpening curvature at caps, which is why each
>> destabilizing step both enables motion and creates new barriers.
>>
>> One distinction I find useful here is between *thermodynamic conjugate
>> variables*, whose products have units of *energy*, and *action-level
>> conjugates*, whose products have units of *action* (energy × time). Most
>> of weather science lives—appropriately—in the first category:
>> temperature–entropy, pressure–volume, chemical potential–mass, latent
>> heat–phase fraction. These describe how energy is stored and transferred.
>> But the chimney argument is really about when a system can support
>> coherent, column-spanning transport, which naturally pulls in the second
>> category: position–momentum, time–energy, angle–angular momentum—pairs that
>> define geometry and path selection.
>>
>> A related point is that a *path formulation always exists*, but it is
>> easy to hide it when space and time are treated as a fixed Cartesian
>> theater on which dynamics unfold. When space and time themselves are
>> treated as variables shaped by constraints, transport is most naturally
>> described in terms of paths. Once the chimney geometry is assembled, motion
>> through the column is no longer diffusive but *path-like*: parcels
>> follow *least-action paths*, equivalently *geodesics on the assembled
>> geometry*. The flux—mass, momentum, moisture—is not being pushed upward
>> in a purely kinetic sense; rather, the *kinematic structure has changed*
>> so that the straightest available paths now span the column. Kinetics still
>> governs rates and intensities, but the phase transition itself is
>> kinematic, determined by which paths are admissible at all.
>>
>> This is where reciprocity becomes important. Near equilibrium, variables
>> appear in their familiar force–flux roles: gradients drive responses, and
>> thermodynamic (energy-product) conjugates dominate. Far from equilibrium,
>> some quantities switch roles and begin defining geometry rather than
>> responding to it: momentum and vorticity stop being just fluxes and shape
>> the column; moisture and latent heat reorganize buoyancy. In this regime,
>> it can be more natural to think in terms of *paths between
>> origin–destination pairs* than in terms of local forces—loosely, a
>> handshake between where transport originates and where it must terminate,
>> mediated by the geometry the system assembles.
>>
>> From that perspective, your closing question about where the remaining
>> energy comes from can be reframed. The limiting factor is not additional
>> energy so much as *completed geometry*. When the remaining caps are
>> eroded and the constraint pathway connects from surface to jet, the same
>> energy reorganizes motion efficiently because the least-action paths now
>> exist. What looks like an energetic gap is really a geometric one.
>>
>> This is why your essay feels so current. In an era of data-rich
>> forecasting and AI models that interpolate states well but struggle with
>> regime change, your chimney construction reads as a phase-recognition
>> framework: storms occur when constraints connect and flux begins to follow
>> least-action (geodesic) paths through a newly assembled geometry.
>>
>> As a concrete aside, I’ve been playing with a few small interactive
>> experiments inspired by our conversations that are essentially 
>> *constraint-geometry
>> toys* for the same ideas, partly for an upcoming class. One uses a
>> Lattice Boltzmann flow where inlet height and boundary shape act as a
>> static constraint geometry:
>> https://harvardviz.live/cognitive-landscapes-group/streamtable.html
>>
>> Another lets you vary domain depth to see how *Bénard convection cell
>> size locks to geometry*, often close to a 1:1 relationship:
>> https://harvardviz.live/cognitive-landscapes-group/benard-cell.html
>>
>> And a third applies computer-vision filters to a timelapse of a real
>> stream table used to teach stream meandering and post-fire debris flows:
>> https://harvardviz.live/cognitive-landscapes-group/stream-vision.html
>> Even though this one is water–soil, the evolving substrate geometry and
>> particle transport feel adjacent to plume and particle dynamics in weather
>> systems
>>
>> with calculated artificial sincerity,
>>
>> Stephen Guerin And Claude Van Dam
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>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 9:51 AM Nicholas Thompson <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>> We have to stop meeting this way.
>>>
>>> <http://goog_810206453>
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>>> https://open.substack.com/pub/monist/p/assembling-a-chimney?r=4qtqk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
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>>> Come ON you guys.  There must be a FEW people interested in this.
>>> Stephen?  Where are my pilots?  My complexitists?
>>>
>>> Next week will be thunderstorms and then I will stop pestering you for a
>>> bit.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
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