Thanks! My primary interest is in the chapter "Ecological neuroscience".
That 1982 article seems similar to a pair of articles we relied on for our chronic pain project: Comparing Two Enactive Perspectives on Mental Disorder https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2022-30931-001 by Nielsen Two Enactive Approaches to Psychiatry: Two Contrasting Views on What it Means to Be Human https://doi.org/10.1353/ppp.2021.0030 by de Haan If I remember right, Nielsen is pluralist and de Haan a bit defensive. Science is social, I guess, hearkening back to EricS' "capture and defend territory". On 4/27/26 2:19 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
I'll see if I can find the book for you... I have a few sources... Re Ecological Psychology and Enactivism being compatible... The pluralism article was interesting (to me) in a large part because there are (at least) two distinct flavors that have been in the field since the early days. Gibson is coming strongly out of the pragmatism tradition (being influenced heavily by James and Holt), whereas Turvey, Shaw, and Mace, the vanguards of the second phase of the field, are clearly coming from a more analytic/continental tradition. James Cutting (who was at Cornell with Gibson) saw this clearly back in the early '80s, but didn't quite grok the philosophical traditions behind the divide (Two ecological perspectives: Gibson vs. Shaw and Turvey. <https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1983-11545-001>). I tried to publish a follow up to that paper in 2012, for it's 30th anniversary, and the reaction against it was pretty harsh; clearly many in the field still had academic PTSD from whatever kerfuffle happened when Cutting published that. The question of whether Eco Psych and Enactivism are compatible largely hinges on where each stands on that divide. I have more notes written somewhere on that, and would be happy to hum a few more bars if anyone was interested. Either way, it is very affirming to see the field opening up to a more pluralistic approach now that TSM are more-or-less out of the picture. Turvey, in particular, I thought went way too far in tapping down alternative approaches toEco Psych, though I thought he was pretty great aside from that. I should get out to one of their conferences again sometime soon and see how the vibe has changed. Best, Eric ----------- Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. Managing Director Men of La Mancha, LLC Open photo <mailto:[email protected]> On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 10:54 AM glen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I was hoping that when this book came available, I would have access to it by hook or crook: The Routledge International Handbook of Ecological Psychology https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-International-Handbook-of-Ecological-Psychology/Nonaka-Romero-Segundo-Ortin-Wagman/p/book/9781032817439 <https://www.routledge.com/The-Routledge-International-Handbook-of-Ecological-Psychology/Nonaka-Romero-Segundo-Ortin-Wagman/p/book/9781032817439> $260 is obscene, almost as bad as hosting your academic conference in Cancún ... or Orlando. Yuck. Whatever. But on the tails of Steve's weird words, then Nick & EricC's trigger, I'll advocate this article: Productive pluralism: The coming of age of ecological psychology https://doi.org/10.1037/rev0000438 <https://doi.org/10.1037/rev0000438> which I found in response to a comment at a Salon last year suggesting I replace "methodological pluralist" with "facultative pluralist". I doubt I could naturalize "facultative" to my tongue any more than I'll ever naturalize "affordances". Also yuck. Anyway, there seems to be a split in the domain. Some people think Ecological Psych and Enactive Psych can be integrated. And some seem to think they have fundamentally irreconcilable differences. I've compiled a sample of publications that may be on either side. But like the Productive Pluralism article above, it's a bit nuanced. It's difficult to tease out who's seriously disjoint about it and who's really open-minded but feels pressed to make a mostly useless distinction. Any opines are welcome.
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