Vulnerable might be a better word than weak..
> On Aug 20, 2026, at 4:31 PM, Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Marcus wrote: >> Consent and dissent are socially constructed. > > So much of human interest/relevance lives in the intersubjective reality > (ISR) domain (which is only loosely coupled to any objective reality (OR) one > might postulate). perhaps ISR is a highly compressed abstraction of OR but > it is the one most humans operate in most of the time? > >> The weak just don't get to exercise much consent and dissent. > > Weak, or weakly situated? Or is blunted/limited/constrained agency what > "weakness" is? > >> Sometimes agents lean to cooperate in some setting, and that's the practical >> point. > multi-scale cognition at the "next" level "up" from the individual organism? >> Part of building cooperation is persuasion, and so ethics can enter there. >> But ethics needn't enter. >> The structure of thing is the ability to sense, evaluate, and hit back (or >> have another agent do it on the agent's behalf). > > surprisal minimization ala Friston? > > > > > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... > --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
