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> From: Eugene Surowitz <[email protected]>
> Date: June 28, 2014 at 6:58:13 PM EDT
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Cc: Gabriel Dos Reis <[email protected]>, Ralf Hemmecke 
> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: TexFormat with latex output
> 
> My comments were motivated by Master Knuth's influence from reading TUGboat  
> vol.35 no.1 p.5 (see below)
> 
> "The TeX Tuneup of 2014".    Rather than suppressing creativity, a sound and 
> stable platform base
> 
> enables it.  PanAxiom is not that yet.  The ")set" issue was the jumping off 
> point to support that.
> 
> I see what you mean if someone wants to write an output routine that meets 
> their needs;  no problem.
> 
> I doubt most people will be doing things like that;  stability first;  
> developers are another breed of cat.
> 
> Knuth:
> 
> The index to Digital Typography lists eleven pages where the importance of 
> stability is stressed, and I urge all maintainers of TEX and 􏰋􏰉􏰎􏰈􏰊􏰍􏰌􏰎 to read 
> them again every few years. Any object of nontrivial complexity is 
> non-optimum, in the sense that it can be improved in some way (while still 
> remaining non-optimum); therefore there’s always a rea- son to change 
> anything that isn’t trivial. But one of TEX’s principal advantages is the 
> fact that it does not change — except for serious flaws whose correction is 
> unlikely to affect more than a very tiny number of archival doc- uments. 
> 
> Cheers, Gene
> 
> On Jun 27, 2014, at 5:05 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>>> \begin{array} is the "native" LaTeX book invocation
>>> of an "array" environment; if somebody has added
>>> a "pmatrix" environment, I personally would avoid
>>> using it in anything I wrote unless it is in the
>>> current LaTeX2e (or beyond) standard.
>> 
>> Ralf is trying to do something constructive with documentation
>> and no solution is perfect. I think he should be given the
>> freedom to experiment. All of these complaints feel like
>> "bike-shedding".
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bike_shed
>> 
>> That said, anybody using Axiom tex/latex output would be expected
>> to \usepackage{axiom}. There are Axiom-specific commands that I
>> have written (such as the chunk environment) and I would expect
>> to be able to use them in output formats.
>> 
>> Tim

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