Good evening Martin,

>From the discussions going on elsewhere, the move towards Wayland is
intended to completely remove X11.

If you require the use of X11, it would probably be beneficial to find
another Linux system as there are a number that are not moving forward with
Wayland but are staying with X11.

The subject is radioactive hot at the moment so be careful and avoid the
politics involved.

On Thu, 17 Jul 2025, 6:42 pm Martin Baker, <ax87...@martinb.com> wrote:

> I use openSUSE and run FriCAS from there. I have found openSUSE to be
> stable over the years and so I'm keen to continue to use it.
> In October they are releasing Leap 16.0, Their website says it is
> "Expected to be Wayland-only (some Xorg remnants remain for now)"
> I don't know what this means but I assume it will continue to allow
> programs that require X.11 to use it or have some sort of X.11 emulator?
> So I am hoping that this won't affect how I use FriCAS but these low
> level issues do have a nasty way of throwing up unexpected problems and
> its potentially more cross platform issues.
> I don't actually require x.11 in that I do not start HyperDoc from my
> startup script:
> ./fricas1 -noht
> and I do not use 2D or 3D plotting functions.
> So it would be good if a startup script could be distributed with FriCAS
> that does not require X.11 at all and just uses the interface to the
> Terminal Console.
>
> I understand that Waldek is combining HyperDoc and fricas io into a
> separate program. In your last message you said "I think that search
> similar to constructor and operation search in HyperDoc could be
> provided by appropriate table of data and relativly simple Javascript
> code". This raises my hope that FriCAS could be made completely
> independent of these low-level and cross-platform issues. Is this correct?
>
> Martin
>
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