2008/9/29 Anilkumar KV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Anil,
This would be my last mail on my thread. As Arun said on fsf-friends, lets wait for the official position of the FSF India. > 2008/9/29 Praveen A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Kiran Chandra's active role in organising the event will not count? Or >> are you claiming Kiran Chandra did not take leadership in organising >> the event? > > > Yes, Kiran Chandra had involved in organising the Hyderabad event. In > fact he was the main organiser of that event. He had involved in it as an > activists of swetcha.in, and not in his capacity as FSF-India director. The > Organisers of Kochi event are constantly in touch with Kiran and other > organisers of Hyderabad event, and it is as per their decision, Kerala and > subsequently Kochi was selected as the venue for the second meet. The > organisers in Kochi has been now assigned to organise the next meet as a > result of the discussion which Hyderabad organisers initiated. I was not aware that Kiran was not representing FSF India but just Swecha. This was the major reason for my confusion. But isn't Swetcha a project by FSF AP? (Swecha.org has FSF Andhra Pradesh written below the logo). I am curious why FSF India was not involved in organising this time when one of its board of directors was actively involved in organising both events. >> >> 'm amazed at the tone of the organizers >> of this event in discredit the FSF India's role of supporting the Free >> Software community for such a long time and also discrediting the role >> played by many individuals in the Free Software community by claiming >> the only effort to promote Free Software happened was last year in >> Hyderabad. Now the concerns are getting even beiiger about the motives >> of the organisers about this event. > > As far as I know, none of the mails from Kochi organisers had any > intention to denounce or discredit activities undertaken by any other free > software organisers or activists. If you sensed like that, please let me > know, corrective action is always ensured. No where it is claimed by any of > the Kochi organisers that efforts to promote Free Software happened last > year. I was referring to the claim by the organisers that the only National Level conference on Free Software after FSF India formed was the Hyderabad event. I felt it was discrediting the efforts of so many of the events that happened in time time. I hope the organisers would acknowledge the contributions of other events and communities in helping promote Software Freedom. > > In fact it is your message that is making confusion among the free > software friends, which comes without collecting actual facts. You could > have at least get information from Kiran before you accusing the Kochi > organisers. Please confirm with him whether the proposed Kochi event have > any legacy of Hyderabad event. I am sorry for creating this confusion. I was not expecting an FSF India board member leading a Free Software conference not in his capacity as a FSF India representative. I was also mistaken that Swecha is not independent of FSF AP. Thanks for all the clarifications. It helps to keep things in perspective. >> >> >> Why would they not consult with the community? >> Why would they discredit Free Software community's efforts for such a long >> time? >> Why would they be blind to so many of the Free Software conferences >> that has happened and happening all over the country? > > > The assumptions prompted you to ask these questions itself is based on wrong > facts. Hence they stands void. >> >> I would like to know who suggested not to involve the orginal >> organisers and who suggested the name? > > Nobody suggested any exclusions. In fact there is no exclusions indented at > all. The organisers of of the Hyderabad event are part of the decision by > which the next venue and organisers are selected. >> >> This is the whole problem. Free Software community does not work this way. >> This is like telling Linus Torvalds that he can join hacking the Linux >> kernel by a newbie without any clue about the Linux kernel. > > You feel it as a problem because you still assume that FSF-India organised > the Hyderabad event, which is not true. > > Your interpretation with example is also wrong due to your ignorance on > organisers of Hyderabad event. It may more resembles on seeking support from > Linus, or whoever it may be, for a second stage of a project, for which he > has extended support for the first stage. > >> I'm expressing the concerns of the Free Software community in a manner >> that is common in the community. We always raise our objections in >> public mailing lists. > > Ok. I appreciate your spirit, however whenever such concern arises please > confirm the base facts with the concerned, otherwise it will create unwanted > confusion among the Free Software community. > > Even then to clear these confusions, let FSF-India directors or secretary > respond to this debate. OK. Lets wait and see what is the official response of FSF India. I apologise for any confusions I have created because of my misunderstandings about Kiran Chandra's role in organising Hyderabad event. I hope the suggestions are taken positively and I wish all the best for the event. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list [email protected] http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends
