On Tuesday 03 March 2009 09:11:08 Steve Fosdick wrote: > Arguing with John is like wrestling a pig in the mud.
As is trying to get information out those who appear to be responsible for, not using the rules to cover the failure of an AGM, then allowing the AFFS to go into 'technical dormancy', whilst not bothering to inform the membership, and continuing to accept payment by Direct Debit and take money by Standing order with out asking the bank to return it and notify the member who was making that payment of the reason for its refund. An EGM, or Meeting to wind up the AFFS, the remedy provided by Rule 15 would have closed this matter by the end of 2005! "15. DISSOLUTION If the Committee by a simple majority decide at any time that on the ground of expense or otherwise it is necessary or advisable to dissolve the Association, it shall call a meeting of all members of the Association who have the power to vote, of which meeting not less than 21 days' notice (stating the terms of the Resolution to be proposed thereat) shall be given. If such decision shall be confirmed by a two-thirds majority of those present and voting at such meeting the Committee shall have power to realise any assets held by or on behalf of the Association. Any assets remaining after the satisfaction of any proper debts and liabilities shall be given or transferred to such other charitable institution or institutions having objects similar to the objects of the Association as the Committee may determine." And all you have to offer is the helpful line, > Arguing with John is like wrestling a pig in the mud. As the Committee have, from what some have to say, resigned both from the Committee and the AFFS, and others will not answer the question, "Are you still a paid up member? The only people who are able to do anything would appear to be the surviving members, in concert with the signatories to the bank account, those who have made themselves known have proved more than happy to provide information and help. it would appear that the answer is simple and lies in the hands of the current members. It might prove more useful were all those who seem to have a desire to make comments such as, " Arguing with John is like wrestling a pig in the mud" and " you can ask these questions until the heat death of the universe", would do better to devoting their efforts to setting up a new body, in order that the current funds of the AFFS can be transferred to it. Although I have to say that upon winding up the AFFS it might be an indication of good will were the subscriptions of those who are still members be refunded for the period starting with the date of the failed AGM to the present. I may be inclined to donate mine. Any incoming Officer or Committee member would also do well to acquaint themselves with the attendant responsibilities and duties. -- John Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ _______________________________________________ Fsfe-uk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-uk
