There are cases where a client/server just want a secure channel on
the control connection (encrypt user name and password), but not the
data itself. I don't think it is a good idea to change the default,
but it would be nice to add a new option to the dataConnection to
force SSL.

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On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Kevin Conaway <kevin.cona...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I apologize for replying to myself but I have some more thoughts.
>
> To me, the "implied" part of "implicit SSL" means that at the application
> level, the user isn't aware that the FTP session is being conducted over
> SSL.  Having to issue a PROT command to set the data protection level
> violates the spirit of that assumption.
>
> Perhaps this is just my limited imagination, but I'm having a hard time
> envisioning a scenario with implicit SSL where you would always want the
> control channel to be encrypted but not the data channel.  Isn't that what
> explicit FTPS is for?
>
> I have a patch ready that will force the data channel to "secure" mode if
> the Listener is in "implicit" mode but I'm not sure of the implications of
> making that switch.  Would it be permissible to at least have this available
> as a configuration option?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Kevin Conaway <kevin.cona...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Although the definition of "FTP with implicit SSL" varies depending on who
>> you ask, its my understanding that it means that the entire FTP session is
>> conducted over TLS/SSL.
>>
>> If thats true, shouldn't the data channel default to the "P" or private
>> setting?  As of now, it defaults to clear (which is the specified behavior
>> in RFC 2228).
>>
>> I have FTP clients that are connecting over implicit SSL without issuing
>> the PROT command.  When they go to transfer a file, FtpServer sets up a
>> plain socket for the data channel instead of an SSL one and the transfer
>> never completes.
>>
>> Would it be appropriate for the ServerDataConnectionFactory to have the
>> "secure" property set to true by default if the session is using implicit
>> SSL?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kevin Conaway
>>
>

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