----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Christoph Wickert > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 17.04.2013, 11:26 -0400 schrieb Tom Callaway: > >> On 04/17/2013 08:52 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> > I definitely like the idea of the one big event and being at the first > >> > one ;-) - > >> > what budget do you expect? Speaking both about community guys (I can > >> > expect > >> > the money that would be used for FUDCon EMEA could be used as travel > >> > budget) and > >> > also internal people from Europe, we usually don't pay from Fedora > >> > budget but > >> > we need a coverage. As far as I know, there's no budget allocated and it > >> > will > >> > be really hard to get such. > >> > >> There is a large chunk of OSAS budget allocated for this event, and our > >> plan is to try to fund as much travel/lodging for attendees as we > >> possibly can. Getting people together for this event is our main > >> priority. Including internal people. :) > > > > Lets do some simple math here: > > FUDCon EMEA attendees: ~100, around 70 of them need lodging. > > Cheapest flights to Charleston from anywhere in Europe: USD 13,000. > > > > Even if only half of the EMEA community members who typically attend a > > FUDCon will go to FLOCK, it would cost us USD 45,000. And that's ony for > > flights, no other travel costs or lodging. I really wonder how "bringing > > people together" should work then. What budget do we have for travel > > sponsorship? > > > > Let's face it: EMEA is the region that suffers most from the current > > budget. We have a proven track record for budget planning and made a > > very reasonable and realistic budget. However, we received over 30% less > > than what we had requested. We even received less than we've spent last > > year, simply because controlling at Red Hat does not work. > > > > And now our premier gets canceled without previous notice and it's > > budget gets allocated to an event in NA. Well done! > > Actually the "without previous notice" isn't true. It was muted right > from the very beginning of the initial "DoCon" proposal, it was even > discussed in board meetings likely while you were a board member. It's > also not just a NA event, Flock v2/2014 is proposed for Europe.
Yep, it was discussed for a long time, then secretly and I still agree with it, it's pretty good idea and something I wanted from the beginning. But I have same concern as Christoph - we really need a budget to bring people to the US, so Flock would make that sense it was planned. Otherwise it will end up as FUDCon NA :( And make sure we will have the budget next year for EMEA one - not to become FUDCon EMEA... And yeah, I don't know if I even get budget for Q2 at all :( Seems unlikely... Jaroslav > > [1] http://wordshack.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/the-future-of-fudcons/ > _______________________________________________ > fudcon-planning mailing list > [email protected] > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning _______________________________________________ fudcon-planning mailing list [email protected] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning
