Guys, official Docker web site <https://www.docker.io/learn_more/> states that it is not production ready.
Why are we considering this solution for our carrier grade OpenStack life cycle management tool? -- Roman Zhnichkov On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Roman Alekseenkov < [email protected]> wrote: > Team, > > We know some of the Docker engineering folks. If you need to talk to them > about best practices, please let me know. > > Roman > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Dmitry Ilyin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let's try to use this http://www.packer.io/docs/builders/docker.html it >> integrates well with both docker and puppet >> >> >> 2014-02-10 Matthew Mosesohn <[email protected]>: >> >> I'm not trying to go in that direction. I'm trying to build single >>> containers that run puppet... like a single class that runs classes >>> nailgun, nailgun::user, nailgun::venv, and nailgun::supervisor without >>> ostf, naily, postgres, etc for isolation. >>> >>> Yes, we may end up using some puppet manifests to orchestrate upgrades >>> just because there are a few providers that can do this. Starting and >>> stopping containers involves running commands and grabbing the >>> generated IDs and a bash script may not be the most elegant method. We >>> should use a smart tool that is atomic and can fail where we need it >>> and provide useful feedback. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Vladimir Kuklin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Matt >>> > >>> > You can easily rewrite puppet modules by writing Puppet provider for >>> Docker >>> > exec and applying puppet defaults class by class: e.g: >>> > >>> > Exec {provider=>Docker, ENV=>"export container_id=#{ID}"} >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Bogdan Dobrelya < >>> [email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On 02/10/2014 03:07 PM, Dmitry Ilyin wrote: >>> >> > Actually it's a very promising idea to move to atomic lxc container >>> for >>> >> > our master node. >>> >> > >>> >> > Volumes used to run these containers could be packaged and easily >>> >> > installed or updated by just replacing the file by the new version. >>> >> > Container will also be compleatly independent and any changing >>> would not >>> >> > break any neighbour container. (Well... except database >>> structures...) >>> >> > >>> >> > Such containers will be able to speak to each other through unix or >>> tcp >>> >> > sockets. >>> >> > Building such containers will require us to invent some automated >>> system >>> >> > but their installation and use would be much more reliable then our >>> >> > current technology. >>> >> > This method can also combine configuration flexibility of >>> >> > puppet-deployed nodes with speed and reliability of image-based >>> >> > provisioned systems. >>> >> > >>> >> > We should also look into using the same approach for controller and >>> even >>> >> > compute nodes. It could help us to find solution to our long lasting >>> >> > OpenStack upgrading problem. >>> >> AFIK, the main issue of Openstack upgrades is DB schema related (all >>> >> objects must have a versioning info, see >>> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/unified-object-model, for >>> >> example). I doubt docker could help here. Please correct me, If I'm >>> wrong. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > 2014-02-10 Evgeniy L <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> >> > >>> >> > Hi, >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > As many of you may already know we started >>> design/implementation of >>> >> > master node upgrade feature. Here you can read the design >>> document >>> >> > >>> >> > < >>> https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/document/d/1Mem9LP7ysaHNNSltlCLPw36jHix5ULlKmsMgTViHfog/ >>> >. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > So, it's just status update of this feature. >>> >> > >>> >> > We want to use docker as containers management tool. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > *Here is Docker's pros and cons* >>> >> > >>> >> > Pros >>> >> > >>> >> > + >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17989306/what-does-docker-add-to-just-plain-lxc >>> >> > >>> >> > + rest API (it will be very useful in case of plugins, when >>> we'll be >>> >> > able to setup new container from inside another container) >>> >> > >>> >> > + lxc requires us to design our own build process and networking >>> >> > >>> >> > + docker has a standard dockerfile format and tools to build >>> images >>> >> > and store them in git and do version management >>> >> > >>> >> > Cons >>> >> > >>> >> > - additional complexity >>> >> > >>> >> > - non-persistent containers, it can be solved with volumes >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.tech-d.net/2013/12/16/persistent-volumes-with-docker-container-as-volume-pattern/ >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.offermann.us/2013/12/tiny-docker-pieces-loosely-joined.html >>> >> > >>> >> > http://crosbymichael.com/advanced-docker-volumes.html >>> >> > >>> >> > - regarding non-persistent containers will be a lot of questions >>> >> > like "I patched nailgun but when I rerun container all changes >>> are >>> >> > gone" (can be solved with documentation) >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Let us know if you have any ideas or questions. >>> >> > >>> >> > Thanks >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> >> > Post to : [email protected] >>> >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Best regards, >>> >> Bogdan Dobrelya, >>> >> Skype #bogdando_at_yahoo.com >>> >> Irc #bogdando >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> >> Post to : [email protected] >>> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Yours Faithfully, >>> > Vladimir Kuklin, >>> > Senior Deployment Engineer, >>> > Mirantis, Inc. >>> > +7 (495) 640-49-04 >>> > +7 (926) 702-39-68 >>> > Skype kuklinvv >>> > 45bk3, Vorontsovskaya Str. >>> > Moscow, Russia, >>> > www.mirantis.com >>> > www.mirantis.ru >>> > [email protected] >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> > Post to : [email protected] >>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~fuel-dev > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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