-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'd say Mary hit the nail pretty squarely on the head here. 5 minutes (ok, I lied, 2 minutes) of googling made it pretty clear that being able to breathe and having a credit/debit car were as valid a set of commanilities as any...and I'm not certain about the breathing part, as I am sure that there at any given moment a large number of credit cards still active for dead people.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:31:50 -0700 Mary Landesman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ever consider the number of PayPal and Amazon users? Of course >those names >are going to crop up frequently. My guess is most of the people >impacted >also eat beef, drink beer, and like the Rolling Stones. That's all >immaterial. > >The point is, it's very clear that not ALL were PayPal and Amazon >users. > >In fact, not ALL even involved cards used or stored online. > >I'm fairly certain not ALL like the Stones, beer, or beef either. > >Conversely, CardSystems processed account data for MasterCard, >Visa, >American Express, Discover, and others. 40,000,000 (four zero >million) >accounts were exposed, 200,000 are known to have been skimmed for >certain. >Pretty significant numbers impacting a huge number of people >regardless of >where they shop or whether they like the Stones or have a PayPal >account. > >Try googling that. > >-- Mary > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Mary Landesman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:02 AM >Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend >of buyers >under cc fraud > > >Read all also, if your mind is linked to this post..., it happens >too much >to amazon nor paypal buyers... my card is French and not stored >too any >online store without amazon or paypal. Try to google "DIGITAL AGE >888", etc, >this is enough yeah to shoot at both companies storing our cc... >else let me >know where we have all used our cc card ? > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Mary Landesman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Envoyé : mardi 11 octobre 2005 16:00 >À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] >Objet : Re: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend >of buyers >under cc fraud > >I've spent less than 5 minutes looking through that thread and >already have >found a number of posts stating their card was not affiliated with >PayPal. >So I have to wonder how you jumped so quickly to that conclusion. > >Remember CardSystems - 200,000 credit card accounts were >compromised and 40 >million accounts exposed just months ago. I think I would put my >bet on >something more obvious, like that. > >Research is about more than collecting links that backup your >viewpoint. > >-- Mary > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:23 AM >Subject: [Full-disclosure] PAYPAL security,hundred or thausend of >buyers >under cc fraud > > >I will explain my small story to show you that using paypal to buy >on the >web is risked. >I have buy only 2 things this month, 1 game at steampowered.com >and 1GB DDR2 >at a respectable ebay store. That was the first time I were using >paypal to >pay things on the net and so on it will be the last time.. > >Today I notice at my bank account a fraudulent debit of 24.99$ >coming from a >"DIGITAL AGE 888", and looking on the web, happy to see that there >is >hundred maybe thausends of ppl in my case , fraudulent charge of >24.99$ from >a "digital age". > >look there: > >http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14525502? >hilite=digital+age > >http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14521837? >hilite=digital+age > >http://www.robertkbrown.com/2005/10/04/digital_age_fraud.html > >after reading all this and comparing with my case, sure it comes >from paypal >and the stored cc card. > >So if you are under the fraud also like me, fill a complaint to >your bank >and there http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp > >This was a first and last use of paypal for me, unbelievable ... > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >--------- >---- > > > >_______________________________________________ >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkNLz+0ACgkQfw4CJpLBxOMA9ACgsnq9FsZinQfQ7roBobJVDiJnZtIA n3/rmnLoWgGPhtfcVuH5SJ3mmjJt =uHS5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
