>Sorry, no way on earth am I gonna run your wretched java virus/trojan just >in order to get the opportunity to have marketing bullshit rammed down my >throat. It's utter GARBAGE to claim that installing some completely unknown >java application is somehow a "safe environment" compared to reading plain >text emails.
> cheers, > DaveK Very succintly put. Anybody who thinks that blindly downloaded software running in a virtual machine is safe deserves what they get. Anybody who opens a hole in their firewall to accommodate it probably also wants to help Nigerian Billionaires transfer their money to a US bank account. Sigh. Sadly the Dilbert bosses hear this marketing pablum, believe it, then criticize their security/network people as overly negative and resistant to change when they oppose this crap. Do you suppose there is any way we could buy off, er I mean pursuade, the trial lawyers to get civil liability to attach to negligently misrepresented software? Dan Sichel CCNP, MCSE Network Engineer Ponderosa Telephone [EMAIL PROTECTED] (559) 868-6367 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
