On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 09:47:17PM +0000, n3td3v wrote: > Security Researcher who reads news stories, studies hacker techniques > and trends. Also noticed that online news journalists are using the > phrase "Security Researcher" as a new name for "hackers". I am > "Security Researcher" in its true form. I don't subscirbe to online > media journalists and hackers who have hi-hacked the term security > researcher to try and hide their true status as "HACKER".
Is there some reason you chose to post a private communications on a public mailing list beyond trying to reinforce the notion that you have no sense of professionalism? OK, fine: I tried. Juveniles can't be reasoned with. > On 11/13/05, Steve Friedl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in a private email: > > I'm not taking any issue with your position in the security industry, > > but you're going to find that communicating poorly (including "not even > > checking for grammer") goes a long way to telling people that you don't > > wish to be taken seriously. > > > > Maybe you're a script kiddie, maybe you're a wannabe, maybe you're > > the real deal: all we can go by is what springs from your fingers, > > and everything you write says "wannabe". > > > > There are varying standards for good writing: a Quick private IM to > > a friend is at the bottom of the list, but a public, "Hey, I wrote > > this" is at the top. It's great to write with passion, and all of us > > go with the flow when it (thankfully) happens, but none of us would > > release a paper without making sure the writing looked professional. > > > > I think that handles and song lyrics are all really juvenile, but you at > > least make a pretense at trying to be a real participant in the security > > industry. > > > > The single best thing you could do for yourself and your reputation is > > to vigorously cultivate your communications skills. > > > > Steve > > > > --- > > Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | +1 714 544-6561 > > www.unixwiz.net | Tustin, Calif. USA | Microsoft MVP | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | +1 714 544-6561 www.unixwiz.net | Tustin, Calif. USA | Microsoft MVP | [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
