Bottom line is... and you can ignore the SANS instructor/SANS zealot post...
SANS = SHIT. Now that I am in a position with my employer to hire and fire people... I will not even consider an applicant who touts his SANS certification as something to be proud of or something to make him more skilled than the next. And, now that I am in a senior position at my employer, I am doing everything I can to stop my employer from paying the EXTORTION fees to SANS in order to be a part of their what works program and any of their training. You know what makes me smile everyday... the knowledge in knowing that I am not the only senior infosec person at a major corporation who feels this way about SANS. Fuck SANS. FUCK EM ALL! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sans#without sans ( P ) Pronunciation Key (snz, sä) prep. Without. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Middle English, from Old French, blend of Latin sine, without, and absenti, in the absence of, ablative of absentia, absence from absns, absent- present participle of abesse, to be away. See absent.] On 11/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it is not what you know but who you know. Best of luck with that grail > thing, finding it is veiled, holding it is easy, keeping it polished is where > the work is. > > -- > vote for me > > > > On 11/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ... the cert game is nothing more than a lucrative revenue generator. For > > either the test givers or the vender pusher or the land of test king. > > > > a few respectable names in their roster[1]; i wonder why they don't > > name the instructor giving each presentation on their conference > > schedule[2]... > > > > i have a theory: the more legitimately skilled you are, the less you > > instruct and the more you are paid. a nice way to convert reputation > > into ca$h! > > > > [maybe i can get in on this racket once i attain the holy grail of > > CPA, GCFW, CISSP, CISM, CISA, CCNA, CCSE, CCSA, GIAC, GCIA, GSNA, > > GCFA, GCIH, GCUX, GSEC, QUE, WTFBBQ] > > > > 1. http://www.sans.org/instructors.php > > 2. http://www.sans.org/index.php > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
