Firstly, I have taken many sans courses and in fact was at their last event in LA. I already do a ton of work for SANS via my employer and I hold a couple different GIAC certifications. So nice try. Instead of listing the courses that I think suck at SANS I will list the ones that are good;
yup... empty list. On 11/25/05, Exibar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dude.... Those sounds like words that are coming from someone that tried > to pass a SANS exam but failed....or someone that thought they could get a > job working for SANS but wasn't accepted.... I'm not saying this happened > to you, but there is much emotion in your reply. > What SANS course are you basing this on? Did you take any SANS courses? > What would you suggest as more ethical than SANS? A vendor given course > like Foundstone (McAfee now)? > > Just curious.... > > Exibar > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: InfoSecBOFH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:42 PM > > To: Exibar > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking Boot camps! > > > > > > On 11/23/05, Exibar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree, BUT for someone that is just starting out and want's > > to get into > > > the InfoSec field. SANS will provide them with a very useful > > foundation to > > > start from. > > > if they're a PC tech, and don't know where to start, a SANS > > type course > > > is money well spent. AS LONG AS they back it up with their own > > practice and > > > research on their own. > > > > WRONG. SANS does not provide anything but marketing opportunities for > > vendors who cannot sell product any other way and a thicker wallet for > > those at the top of the pyramid scheme. I agree that training when > > you are starting out is important but SANS is not an ethical or > > legitimate training institution and does more to harm security than it > > does to help. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
