It appears that a great deal of this list doesn't remember PHC/Project Mayhem and is dismissing them as trolls like n3td3v, or other script kiddies that seem to populate this list nowaday. Let me refresh the memories of those who don't remember:
-=- They were allegedly responsible for several high profile compromises of "respected" security profiteers Ryan Russel, Theo De Raddt (OpenBSD), Christopher Abad and others. http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,54400,00.html?tw=wn_story_r elated -=- There is a deep-seeded underground movement that agrees wholeheartedly with the sentiment echoed by PHC and other anti-sec groups worldwide. With far too many companies making far too much money off of independant non-profit research and the blood, sweat and tears of real "hackers", it is only rational that the security market be flooded with clueless drones waiving GIAC and CISSP certifications while some of the best minds in the world are alienated from an industry that rewards mediocrity and outright thievery. If you think the reason we haven't been seeing near the level of remote root exploit code on the lists is because secure coding practices as a whole have improved exponentially over the last few years, you are badly mistaken. People are sitting on their code and targeting those who just don't get _it_. Before you go discounting Project Mayhem as list dribble just remember; ".. the people you are after are the people you depend on. We configure your MOM servers, run your cat-6, we set up your IDS sensor nodes. We test and design your perimeters, we guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us". Some retro links regarding project mayhem and anti-sec: A mirror of the original PHC site: http://www.eurocompton.net/~bhb/phrack/ A mirror of an anti-sec journal (blackhatbloc): http://www.eurocompton.net/~bhb/ el8 magazine: http://web.textfiles.com/ezines/EL8/ Concerned about your privacy? Instantly send FREE secure email, no account required http://www.hushmail.com/send?l=480 Get the best prices on SSL certificates from Hushmail https://www.hushssl.com?l=485 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
