On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Chris Umphress wrote: > > > On 12/19/05, J.A. Terranson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > America is odd in that is is an active supporter of terrorism (Israel), an > > > > Come again? Israel is a terrorist state? How in the world did you get > > your mind bent enough that this even seems right? > > repeat it with me: M-E-N-A-C-H-I-M B-E-G-I-N. > > Isarel was FOUNDED on terrorism, and as with the proverbial tiger, has > never felt the need to change it's stripes.
I suppose I could argue on either side of that fence. In my mind, Abraham was there early, so the Israelites were re-claiming their land. Interesting viewpoint, though. > > Just a guess, but are you for gun-control also? > > I fail to see how these are even remotely related, but i'll bite anyway: > No, I do not believe in "gun control" (ie confiscation). My apologies for assuming that you would be for "gun control." In my experience, most of the people who are anti-Israel are against people protecting themselves as neccessary. I hadn't thought about your viewpoint for the beginning of the Israeli nation. > > Against a person's > > right to defend his own life and freedom? Oh wait... that's what this > > whole thread is about. Whether or not people should be able to have > > the guns they need to protect themselves. As long as people can defend > > themselves, it almost doesn't matter how big the "weapon" (I see it as > > a tool, not a weapon) is, but rather the resolve of the people. > > So, clearly we are on the same side of *this* fence. Now, why are we > here? Glad to hear that :) > > In the > > past, the united States has had few external attacks because it was > > realized that the people were willing and capable of defending > > themselves. > > And that same confidence has now morphed into a bullying attitude of > "We're bigger than you, we'll do whatever the hell we damn well please.". That's a side-effect of so-called "gun control." Cite Germany a few decades ago. > Except for thos "Axis of Evil" areas that can actually defend themselves > against an American invasion (vis Kim Jong Il.). If Kim is so god awful, > why the hell don't we invade there? Because he'd blow our fucking asses > off the landing pad. A nuclear enema for Shrub. And a well deserved one > I might add. -- Chris Umphress <http://daga.dyndns.org/> _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
