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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/29/2005 09:22:12 PM:
> On 12/29/05, Michael Holstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The security directives are secret because you don't
> > > show your hand to the enemy (except if you work for the New York Times.)
> >
> > Uh huh .. so the newspaper informing the public about an illegal
> > government program (after holding the article for a year at the
> > government's request) is "helping the enemy"
> >
>
> Especially when "the enemy" is anyone who publicly or *privately*
> disagrees with the president. Worse now US citizens are enemies with
> no civil rights and are imprisoned indefinately like rats...exactly
> what are we defending by spying on our own citizens with no cause is
> beyond me.
>
> > It seems so many have forgotten who the true enemy is.
> >
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).
> >
>
> That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000
> different ways depending on the source.
>
> -sb
>
> > /mike.
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