I run Ubuntu (for my girlfriend's computer), nUbuntu (for learning), Windows (for school's software), and Trustix (for server). Of course all are behind a hardware firewall and properly configured and patched as far as I know. But who knows maybe I have been hacked and dont know about it, or maybe I havent, I mean no system is secure unless it has no access to any external network. So on this subject everyone is right in their own way. Lets all get along =o)
> For Pauls next trick, he'll have you all believing that President Bush is a > genius. Didn't you know he was? I thought everyone got that email from DHS. Maybe was just spam =oP > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "zap zoid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] What is wrong with schools these days? > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:54:57 -0700 > > > Since when is Zone-H an authoritative source. > > For Pauls next trick, he'll have you all believing that President Bush is a > genius. > > Paul, maybe for CrYpTic the statement holds true. Do you know him > personally? Have your broken into any of his linux boxen? Maybe he doesn't > run linux but rather HPUX, IRIX, Solaris, OpenSolaris or even Windows. > > Just because your users are idiots doesn't mean CrYpTic is an idiot. > > You seem overly agitated today, are you getting ready to launch an attack? > > > > On 4/25/06, Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > CrYpTiC MauleR wrote: > > > All you had to say was Microsoft =oP > > > > > That's hilarious. The number one defaced website OS is Linux. (See > > Zone-H.org if you don't believe me.) > > > > The number one problem I have here is unix boxes. You know why? > > Because a lot of open-source bozos run around claiming unix is more > > secure than Windows. So a lot of clueless people think that, if they > > just set up a RedHat box, they won't have anything to worry about. > > > > Ask them what that little red ball with the X in it is - you know - the > > one flashing up there in the taskbar- and they'll say I dunno. > > > > No OS is secure by default. No OS can remain secure if it's not > > properly configured and maintained. Look at your box right now. How > > many of you have inetd or xinetd running? Why? What services does it > > provide that you need? Do you even know what chargen or rpc.statd is? > > If not, why are they running (if they are)? How many of you have a > > workstation running with more than just ssh enabled and *no* firewall > > running? > > > > You name the OS, and I can tell you of at least one incident of hacking. > > We haven't had a Windows box hacked in a long time. The last five > > were two Macs and three RedHat boxes. Does that mean Macs and RedHat > > are insecure? NO! It means, until the general public understands the > > problem and knows what the solution is, hacking will continue apace with > > no sign of letting up. > > > > The real problem is ignorance. > > > > -- > > Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Adjunct Information Security Officer > > The University of Texas at Dallas > > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- _______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
