It's the same joke at work, most of us do not like Microsoft security 
but it keeps us employed (despite their efforts to taint the industry).
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Mike Vasquez wrote:
> I think it was more as a statement regarding the maturity of security 
> tools on each platform.  for instance, for wireless, linux has far 
> more tools, and a wider variety, for that work, than windows, and the 
> tools have fewer limitations... and that's an opinion from an 
> mcse+i/mcdba/mcse:security.
>
> so more often than not, for research/security work: linux good/windows 
> bad.  not as a statement regarding which platform is better in 
> general, or more secure, etc.  just simply from the vantage point of 
> needed to do security work.
>
> On 7/2/07, *Stack Smasher* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>
>     You have to understand the laptop and OS are just tools to obtain
>     whatever information you need. Linux and Window$ are just a way of
>     running applications to help you achieve your goal. Don't think of
>     Linux as "Good" and "Windows" as bad as far as security is
>     concerned. Its the mis-configured system and network in general
>     that make it insecure.  Not only that, windows keeps us security
>     guys employed ; )
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     "If you see me laughing, you better have backups"
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 7/2/07, * Joshua Ogle* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks for the input.  I'm not just starting out on capturing
>         packets or
>         anything -- after all, I'm doing research and writing about
>         something very
>         related -- it's just that in a Windows environment I know very
>         little
>         about how to do things.  I'm a Linux guy when it comes to this
>         kind of
>         activity and I know that it's typically very difficult to do
>         things
>         "right" as far as security testing goes in a Windows environment.
>         Unfortunately, given the circumstances of the research, I am
>         only able to
>         use a Windows-based laptop, but I've now found (thanks to a
>         contributer to
>         the list) a live CD which will help with get into a Linux
>         environment to
>         do the work.
>
>         Thanks again to you and the others for your input.
>
>         -Josh
>
>         > This is not the place to ask for a scooby snack or hand
>         holding without
>         > getting attacked with a flamethrower, try the link below.
>         They are very
>         > helpful to those just starting out.
>         >
>         > http://www.binrev.com/forums/
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > "If you see me laughing, you better have backups"
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > On 7/2/07, Joshua Ogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>         >>
>         >> Heya,
>         >>
>         >> For some research I'm doing I need to capture packets using
>         my laptop in
>         >> a
>         >> public space.  What is the best wireless card for doing so
>         which will
>         >> work
>         >> with most of the packet capturing software on Windows, such
>         as Ethereal?
>         >>
>         >> Thanks in advance for the help.
>         >>
>         >> -Josh
>         >>
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