It's like evolution where the results depend on the environment.  Currently,
its inputs are "corporate america" and "hackers".  Result, "security
professional".  Let's see what the future will bring.

On 8/4/07, HACK THE GOV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> the bbc has the balls to call them hackers and not security
> researchers, its about time the security media journalists woke up and
> followed suit with the bbc.
>
> blackhat is a hacker conference, the folks releasing information aren't
> security researchers, they are hackers through and through.
>
> its people like securityfocus and cnet that try and give hackers
> legitimacy to release their information and tools by calling them
> security researchers.
>
> the security media need to get their wording correct in terms of
> describing these people, trust me they'll be a revolution one day.
>
> for years i have read news sites and cringed at how much hackers are
> given fancy titles like security and vulnerability researcher, kids
> lets get down to it here ok, just incase you aren't on top of it,
> these people are hackers.
>
> people like hd moore are elite hackers that the government are scared
> of, lets not dress them up with any other title, the security media
> seem to dress them up and soften them up for public consumption in
> news articles for the non security savvy joe average to read.
>
> the bbc should be hailed and get a standing ovation as the leading
> media news outlet in the world and should be a sign for others at
> securityfocus and cnet to take note of for future coverage of security
> current affairs.
>
> why are securityfocus and cnet lying to their readers about what and
> who these people are? they are hackers.
>
> we need to put the word hacker back where it belongs instead of
> letting the uneducated crowd continue to call crackers and script kids
> "hackers".
>
> you don't hear much of the word cracker and script kid in the media
> now do you, they are called cyber criminals or hi-tech criminals now.
> *lol*
>
> i guess going to blackhat and releasing tools for the cyber criminals
> to use isn't criminal in its self.
>
> like i said, they'll be a revolution one day.
>
> we don't even call them blackhats, even though they are at blackhat
> security conference, and what are whitehats doing giving talks at a
> blackhat hacker conference? oh its just a name, it doesn't mean
> anything, *lol*.
>
> link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6929258.stm
>
> team n3td3v
>
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