On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Dr. J Swift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. Wallace, > > In your rush to reply, you failed to actually respond to my post. > > Again, you use the technique of "Supressed Evidence" to forcefully > reply while not actually responding to the point that was made. > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:31 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Dr. J Swift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Mr. Wallace, >>> >>> 1. HD Moore long ago released a kit that could be used to rootkit >>> Cisco boxes. This is an obvious statement of fact. >>> 2. In-the-wild Cisco rootkits have been known to non-eponymous >>> security researchers for a considerable time. >>> 3. You have said that HD More is a global threat. >>> 4. You have repeatedly defamed/slandered/libeled HD Moore among a >>> global community of peers and coworkers. >>> >>> I am providing this opportunity for you to show a correlation between >>> the current existence of rootkits for Cisco systems and the current >>> existence of tools from HD Moore. >> >> >> So can you guarantee the HD Moore's of the world won't work out how to >> do Cisco rootkits after the EUSecWest presentation and won't release a >> tool to the mailing lists? > No guarantee is required. Rootkits and tools already exist.
If you can't guarantee it, then the presentation shouldn't go ahead. >> >> You are delusional if you think this presentation won't lead to >> someone releasing a tool to the script kids, the presentation can't go >> ahead. > 1. It is obvious to security researchers, Mr. Wallace, that a number > of such tools already exist. > 2. There exist a number of Cisco rootkits that are known to security > researchers. > Mr. Wallace, I am sure that you are thoroughly versed in these things > because of your standing in the security community and your > affiliation with Global Intelligence Services. So, why do you > repeatedly cast aspersions on HD Moore? > Because in my opinion it is highly skilled people like HD Moore who would release a tool for Cisco rootkits after watching or reading the presentation. All the best, n3td3v _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
