Dear n3td3v, the person =) I really appreciate your left wing point of view but you need to understand one thing:
FD's a free list and all but it's not a blog. Nothing personal, On 5/17/08, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [NANOG] IOS rootkits > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> If the way of running this isn't out in the wild and it's actually > >>> dangerous then a pox on anyone who releases it, especially to gain > >>> publicity at the expensive of network operators sleep and well being. > >>> May you never find a reliable route ever again. > >> > >> This needs fixing. It doesnt need publicity at security conferences > >> till after cisco gets presented this stuff first and asked to release > >> an emergency patch. > > > > Agreed, > > > > You've got to remember though that a security conference is a > > commercial venture, it makes business sense for this to be publically > > announced at this security conference. > > > > I think security conferences have become something that sucks as its > > all become money making oriented and the people who run these things > > don't really have security in mind, just the £ signs reflecting on > > their eye balls. > > > >> --srs > >> -- > >> Suresh Ramasubramanian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> > > > > All the best, > > > > n3td3v > > > > > Full-Disclosure, > > I fully believe British Intelligence are the best in the world and > that they will pull the plug on this presentation without hesitation > before it gets to go ahead. > > I don't see anyone disagreeing how wrong it is for this presentation > to go ahead as a business decision. > > I know the national security boys at MI5 are listening, so I suggest > this gets priority and this presentation doesn't go ahead. > > What I want is a high profile pulling the plug of this presentation to > act as a deterrent to any other security conferences across the world > who think they are going to capitalise through high risk > vulnerabilities as this one is. > > I want UK government officials to walk on stage as this presnetation > is about to start, infront of the media, infront of everybody, > including the money makers who thought they were going to use this > presentation as a way to sell tickets and make money and put UK > national security at risk. > > I don't want a behind the scenes pulling the plug of this > presentation, I want it to be high profile, infront of the worlds > media to show that in Britian we don't fuck about with crappy security > conferences trying to become rich by getting high risk talkers to come > to their security conference to guarantee a sell out and thousands of > pounds made, at a cost to UK national security. > > I will be talking with my private contacts to try and get this to > happen, as many of you know I already had a grudge with EUSecWest > spamming the mailing lists, instead of buying advertisement banners on > websites, so the announcement of a IOS rootkit presentation is the > final insult to injury, and the UK national security boys are likely > to pull the plug on this without hesitation to make an example to > these security conference owners to say that national security becomes > before profit and how dare you try to profit and not giving a shit > about the consequences of this presentation. > > Trust me and mark my words EUSecWest, you upset a lot of people > spamming the mailing lists, this is just the worst possible thing you > could have done to keep people on side, you've lost any respect I may > have had for your conference and I guarantee UK government officials > will pull the plug on your business venture of a security conference. > > Blackhat conference with Michael Lynn was under the control of the > American authorities and they were light weight in response to what > was going on, trust me, the British authorities will be coming down a > lot tougher and won't be thinking twice about pulling this > presentation, but will do it on a grand scale infront of the media, to > send a clear signal that these security conferences and their money > making agenda isn't going to get in the way of our national security. > > This is a subject I feel strongly and passionate about because if this > presentation went ahead it would fuck up a lot of ISPs and would put > national security at risk. > > If the British authorites don't pull the plug on this presentation you > will have let your country down and let your British taxpayers down > who fund MI5 in the first place. > > And its not just me saying this, ISPs are calling for this > presentation to be pulled as well. > > > All the best, > > n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -- Marcio Barbado, Jr. "In fact, companies that innovate on top of open standards are advantaged because resources are freed up for higher-value work and because market opportunities expand as the standards proliferate." 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