"COL. CHARLES W. (CHARLIE) WILLIAMSON III is the staff judge advocate, Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency, at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas. He has served as a flight test manager for small, air-breathing missiles; as a judge advocate at two base-level legal offices; as a staff judge advocate for two base-level legal offices; and as the first staff judge advocate for the Joint Task Force-Computer Network Operations. The views expressed here are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Air Force or Defense Department."
But it takes a faggot like me to point out the biggest error of your article. All the best, n3td3v On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:03 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A cyber human shield? A rogue government could take traditional > military tactics [1] and put them into the cyberspace warfare arena. > > This evidently [2] hasn't been thought about after I read the military > article cited by S/U/N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield > > [2] http://www.afji.com/2008/05/3375884/ > > All the best, > > n3td3v > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] pentagon botnet > To: [email protected] > > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:16 AM, S/U/N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.afji.com/2008/05/3375884/ >> > > What if the bot net of the enemy state are hospital computers, will > you still attack them? What if the bot net of the enemy state are > power station computers, will you still attack them? Will you risk > putting civilian life at risk if the enemy state hides their bot net > in national infrastructure that will make you look the worst if you > attack them? > > Enemy states would end up hiding their bot nets in places you wouldn't > want to attack... because if you did it would shut down a national > infrastructure. The enemy states aren't going to have their bot nets > in home computers with Windows Vista running, they are going to be > national infrastructure computers that if you attack them will put the > countries civilians at risk, making you the baddies and them the > goodies. > > You haven't thought things through well enough and the tactics your > enemy state will use to make you the baddie for attacking their bot > net, which you will have a hell of a job convincing the single mom and > retired couple crowd that a hospital or power station was something > called a bot net which they haven't even heard of a bot net before and > are told it was attacking pentagon networks or something, which didn't > affect the single mom and retired couple to begin with, but are told > its a good idea to shut down a countries hospital or power station > anyway. > > Just trust your government, shutting down a rogue nations national > infrastructure is in your best interest, even though joe public don't > know what the hell a bot net is and why that fluffy innocent looking > hospital or power station was one and that it was attacking the United > States pentagon networks. Thats really going to go down well with the > American public who one fifth of have never used or sent an e-mail. > http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9946706-7.html > > From the American public point of view and the rest of the world's > point of view it will be US government attacking innocent hospitals > and power stations that look like its doing nothing wrong from the > single mom and retired couple prospectus, so how are you going to win > over hearts and minds that shutting down a countries national > infrastructure was a good idea, when there is nothing wrong with that > hospital or power station to the untrained public eye? > > You're going to need to educate your citizens first of all what a bot > net is, and then teach them that an enemy state is hiding rogue bot > net computers in hospitals and power stations, and that you need to > attack that infrastructure, and once you've attacked and shut down the > enemy states hospital and power station that from the untrained eye > was doing nothing wrong from the prospectus of the one fifth of > Americans who have never used e-mail before, you'll need to find a way > of proving that hostpital or power station did have a rogue bot net in > it and that you weren't just making it up. > > There are probably more cunning national infrastructure places your > enemy state would hide their bot net than just a hospital or power > station, but those are pretty good standard examples to get your mind > thought juices flowing. So how are you going to convince joe public > why you're DDoS'ing eastern countries national infrastructure and its > citizens are out on the streets protesting because they have no food, > water, health care, electricity and whatever other thing you attacked > because the enemy state had placed their rogue bot net computers there > for the United States to offensively attack? > > Those people out on the streets protesting won't even know what a bot > net is or understand why their power station, hospital or other > national infrastructure has suddenly stopped working. Try explaining > that to them and the rest of the world when they are starving and in > need of world aid organizations to come save their lives. > > Its not going to work, so quit this pentagon bot net idea already, > there is enough carnage and problems in the world without the above > carry on happening, all because of military bot nets attacking > military bot nets that are cunningly placed in national infrastructure > to make whoever attacks it look bad. > > All the best, > > n3td3v > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
