-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think most of us realize that even with the hard work of many good people in and out of the security industry this country's cyber security amounts to some swiss cheese, and there is plenty of blame to go around. Let's face it though, no one thinks that by failing to properly secure their computer and/or information they could possibly be aiding our terrorist friends. For one, there have been been links between funding for various groups and carding. Changing the public opinion and mindset might go a long way especially if its something like "your credit card could be funding the next 911", that's just a though though. As for those who have been there, done that, all your work isn't for naught. I may not like his tax plan, but Obama definitely is headed in the right direction by appointing a CTO for this country as well as taking cyber security seriously. Its about damned time!
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:13:44 -0500 James Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >They are trying to get the government to do something about it. >But unless >they see the danger not just hear about it nothing will happen. > >Consider remarks before Congress last year by O. Sami Saydjari, >CEO of Cyber >Defense Agency <http://www.cyberdefenseagency.com/>, a security >research and >consulting firm, and a former official at the Defense Dept.'s >research arm, >DARPA. Following a major cyber-attack, he told legislators, >electricity, >banking, and communications could all go dead, leaving Americans >scrounging >for food, water, gasoline—even hunks of firewood traded on the >black market. > > >On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Elazar Broad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> They ain't called beltway bandits for nothing... >> >> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:28:52 -0500 "Rafal @ IsHackingYou.com" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Ivan, all, >> > >> > Hold the phone...$5k-$7k to fix an infected device!? >Really? >> >HOLY >> >CRAP... either that's a completely made-up "FUD" figure, or the >> >government >> >contractors are making *way* too much money off my taxes. >> > >> >__ >> >Rafal M. Los >> >IT Security - Response | Mitigation | Strategy >> > >> >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > - Blog: http://preachsecurity.blogspot.com >> > >> >-------------------------------------------------- >> >From: "Ivan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 5:14 PM >> >To: "Full-Disclosure mailing list" <full- >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Subject: [Full-disclosure] U.S. Is Losing Global Cyberwar, >> >Commission Says >> > >> >> >> >>http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/dec2008/db2008 >1 >> >27_817606.htm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure- >charter.html >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Charset: UTF8 >> Version: Hush 3.0 >> Note: This signature can be verified at >https://www.hushtools.com/verify >> >> >wpwEAQECAAYFAkk99owACgkQi04xwClgpZjY7AP/U3/nVeboctT47VJv9/ZmVY3EG6u >E >> >0oJhSZBqOtwJwu8RpXLGHpMj7iVkWEOAdI+iaEdZsWC+yGnvAkUUI4xnHkA3gKfzSB9 >j >> >gvG8XT/bcrbsON3dF9NOrb2hzdq8DqPbgDAIEg5wR3k3gXjrMap3BoIchz5g06HA18i >h >> INTTfno= >> =3ZDD >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> Save hundreds on an Unsecured Loan - Click here. >> >> >http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxtViPpZpPq5YJjtAbu0xAEgHnQ9Is2j >ctQdjJChMVzyH6VQE/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > > > >-- >http://www.goldwatches.com/ > >http://www.jewelerslounge.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 3.0 wpwEAQECAAYFAkk+qOQACgkQi04xwClgpZiq9gP9EeZu+SyMqKR/VUP3dYa2Wgj7IbCX WcjA34deDCJFfIQNnkDUZITFku/ugnbMpEhQrKd2NtGvo3jexSNRYpn+Zi6bHn/scPXE QYfCylQQ1gVjM/CaUiQ6PABRXFH0KDrtKu25s462gL5EQpWBP2DwJlr+HXKCeo3K2duu f+OGess= =A69b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Become a Graphic Designer and earn up to $150/ hour. Click here. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/PnY6qxunKiA5qG9iu3IFnWxOgn8cMwJhcEQznn9mrCUm2PgdpHhhe/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
