Should I remind you that the biggest murderers of all times: Stalin, Hitler, Mao where motivated by non-religious agendas and were Atheists?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman < [email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things like > that. Stop the damn religion > of bein g an excuse for your country's desires, ok? Ig god existed, he'd > probably be thinking about > nuking the hell out of Earth. > > Alaa Abdelwahab wrote: > > Mikael > > > >> This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the world > today. > > > > What is causing the bloodshed is the unjust arrangements that are tying > to > > be forced somewhere, the same like your example after the WW I. > > > > > >> The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was > responded > >> with my bombings etc. Atrocities have been commited by both sides, this > is > >> an never ending argument. Both sides need to decide that they want > peace, > >> make sure they have representatives that also believe in this, and then > >> they need to sit down and decide what to do, execute it and at the same > >> time curb extremism in their own midst. > > > > What peace they have tried? Did they agree on the tens of UN resolutions: > > > > - Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in Israel. > > (General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948 ) > > - Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal. (Security Council > Resolution > > 242, Nov. 22, 1967 ) > > - Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal. (Security Council > > Resolution 446, March 22, 1979) > > - Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination. (General Assembly > > Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974) > > - Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State. (Security Council Resolution > 1397, > > March 12, 2002) > > - The 1947 Partition plan of Palestine and the creation of Israel. (UN > > General Assembly Resolution 181) > > - Recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem. (Resolution > > 127) > > > > All above UN resolutions and other tens of other resolutions to deplores > the > > Israeli terror attacks against Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Palestine/.... were > just > > been ignored by Israel and instead they are just trying to force their > own > > view of peace, I don't call this peace. > > > > Maybe you have a different definition of the terror acts. > > > > When a man bomb himself and kills tens of civil ppl this is a terror act, > > but also when a powerful country sends its troupes inside another country > > and kills a thousands civil ppl this is a terror act as well. > > > > Don't tell me it is doing that to protect itself. > > > > To protect itself it should respect the UN resolutions. That should only > > bring peace to the whole area and we all live in peace. > > > > What I believe is that the UN should force Israel to respect its > > resolutions, the same way they did in Iraq and Yugoslavia. > > > > > >> This is the current situation, it wasn't like this historically. Trying > to > >> argue that one side is evil by looking at latest developments is always > a > >> slippery road. You just before said that there were 5000 rockets > launched > >> in the past 8 years into Israel? Isn't that evil? > >> This leads nowhere. > > > > As per the UN resolution which defined Israel as an "occupation forces", > > that gives the right to the Palestinian to resist. Any way they see, and > we > > all should support them. > > And as per the International Humanitarian Law "the Geneva Conventions", > the > > safety and securing a good life for the Palestinian ppl is the > > responsibility of Israel. > > > > > >> Force? As opposed to the parties involved here, I am writing/talking, > >> instead of promoting bloodshed. > > > > > > When I said "force YOUR" didn't mean you, sorry for the misunderstanding > it > > is my bad. > > > > Brgds...Alaa > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > - -- > Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman > Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP > http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html > Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFJYN47AlpOsGhXcE0RCjRSAJ9uBp/St53ks+lIc2BJcZgS4EJP2ACfUxXS > yGSd0ghuLT8+4YvIF8A/vAE= > =j9Pc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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