...silence on the wire... On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dexter, Ben <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guys. > > Dave is a member of a forensics list I am on and asked me to post this > response on his behalf (he is not a full disclosure list member). You > can email him at [email protected] if you need to discuss further. > > Ben. > > ---------Begin message from Dave Kleiman---------- > > Razi, > > You researching skills are astonishing.....maybe NOT! > > >>>seagate.custkb.com != seagate.com<<< > > Really, what was your verification process? > > > >>>Seagate's knowledge base can be found at > http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/ <<< > > No that is where the link to Seagate's knowledge base is. > > Did you bother to check the link, of course not? It leads here: > http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/news.jsp?NewLang=en > > Did you bother to call their support number, of course not? > 1-800-SEAGATE (1 800 732-4283), you would have heard all about the > issue. > > > >>>Do you have any actual evidence to back up these wild claims? > Besides the inquirer, of course (the source for the electronista > article) and the _fake_ knowledgebase website<< > > Yes I do...the actual source of the article, the Seagate forum from the > 16th of Jan. ""Seagate Community Forums: Internal Hard Drives : Internal > (ATA and Serial ATA) drives : ANNOUNCEMENT: Firmware Issues"" > http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board?board.id=ata_drives just click on > the ""ANNOUNCEMENT: Firmware Issues"" it is right at the top. > > And, the knowledge base is real, but from someone with what appears to > be your erudition and what would seem to be your knee-jerk reaction, you > may not possess the skill set to figure that out. > > Stick to whatever it is you do well, whatever that is, but it seems to > be obvious that it is probably not any type of information research. > > > Respectfully, > > Dave Kleiman - http://www.ComputerForensicExaminer.com > > ---------End message from Dave Kleiman---------- > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Razi Shaban [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 1:01 AM > To: Full Disclosure > Subject: [Full-disclosure] Seagate 7200.11 Drives attempted scam > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Razi Shaban <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Dave Kleiman > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If you have Seagate 7200.11 Drives you should seriously consider > not using them for any valuable information storage, you might even > consider replacing them. > >> > >> > >> > >> The following information was provided to me by Scott > "ByteAssassin" Moulton: > >> > >> Seagate is now admitting a huge problem with 7200.11 Drives. > Seagate is picking up the tab for data recovery. I have known about > this problem and been teaching it in the class since the drives were > released and seen hundreds, not only Seagate's, but also Western > Digital and Hitachi. It's great to see them being responsible. > >> > >> There is a place to do the BIOS update. I have a feeling the > problem is much more extensive than the firmware. There are updates > on the list below to test and update. I will let you know more as I > discover it. However, I will tell you that Western Digital and > Hitachi have similar problems with drives failing. We will see what > that is in the future I guess. > >> > >> Seagate Barracuda drives failing en masse > >> > >> > http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/01/13/seagate.barracuda.fail > ures/ > >> > >> > http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=2 > 07931 > >> > >> > >> > >> Respectfully, > >> > >> Dave Kleiman - http://www.ComputerForensicExaminer.com > >> 4371 Northlake Blvd #314 > >> Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 > >> 561.310.8801 > >> > > > > > > Do you have any actual evidence to back up these wild claims? > > Besides the inquirer, of course (the source for the electronista > article) and the _fake_ knowledgebase website. > > > > seagate.custkb.com != seagate.com > > > >Seagate's knowledge base can be found at > http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/ > > > > -- > > Razi Shaban > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Kleiman <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:26 PM > Subject: RE: Seagate 7200.11 Drives > To: Razi Shaban <[email protected]> > > > shhhhhhhhhh do not tell anyone. myself and byteassassin have created a > supermicro nix kernel that runs in the flash area of seagate drives, > we can cause the rotational speed of a hard drive to triple, and then > the platters shatter. we already have over 500K downloads, and at > defcon this year we be able to take over millions of computers and > show us controlling them during our presentation, and then bang > millions of hard drives will all crash at once....permanently! > i hope you are not one of those security research guys and try and > turn us in........................ > > > --------------------------------------------- > > nub fails epicly. > > Regards, > Razi Shaban > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. > If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete > all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. 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