And the question is now: should the Mossad, NSA, etc be considered as bad guys ?
2009/12/12 Jeff Williams <jeffwilli...@gmail.com> > If idefense pay 7000$ for a RCE on IE, it's possibly because they sell > theses bugs to the NSA, MOSSAD, MI10 ? > > From my understanding, MS do not pay for any reported vulnerability, or > maybe i missed the "make a donation" icon on idefense website ? > > > > 2009/12/12 Shyaam <shy...@gmail.com> > > :) Good one Valdis. That is what I was exactly trying to do. >> >> #1. If his intent was good, he would have sent it to the vendor and to the >> US Cert. >> #2. His aim is to get money: >> a. Instead of selling it directly to black market and not getting >> any returns, or having some legal agency stepping onto his doors he could as >> well sell it to these companies. >> b. These companies DO NOT sell stuff to BLACK MARKET. Straighten >> your facts before you accuse any of the below: >> zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc. They have better things to do than to >> sell it off to the bad guys. >> >> Besides, many people have that kind of a notion only because there are >> many hollywood movie fanatics out there, who suspect every single entity >> around you. >> >> Thanks for your creative response though :). You really cracked me up :) >> >> Shyaam >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:31 AM, <valdis.kletni...@vt.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:13:52 EST, Jeff Williams said: >>> >>> > zdi,idefense,securiteam,immunity,etc is a front, your exploit will >>> anyways >>> > end up on the blackmarket by selling it to theses company. >>> > How can you be that naive ? >>> >>> You're talking to somebody willing to sell to the highest bidder on F-D. >>> Draw your own conclusions about whether they actually care if it ends up >>> on >>> the black market. >>> >> >> >> >
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