What would you advise a typical home user do to stay virus/trojan/other shit free ? Working on the assumption that they can't tell the difference (and really, shouldn't have to) between dangerous and safe files. AV software is pretty lacking, and the best advice I can think to give users is that "everyone on the Internet is out to get you"
Tom On 06/22/2010 10:11 AM, Cor Rosielle wrote: > Brilliant thinking. Let’s install anti virus and increase the computers > attack surface without further thinking. That must be safe because > politicians tell us to do so. And we all know that politicians always tell > the truth and happen to know a lot about PC’s an security. > > Sigh. Tom has a point that end-users must take some responsibility for their > own computer, but that doesn't mean that anti virus is the one and only > solution. But if you think anti virus is the silver bullet to make this > world saver, then dream your dreams and I'll dream mine. > > Cor > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christian > Sciberras > Sent: dinsdag 22 juni 2010 10:56 > To: Tom Grace > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] No anti-virus software? No internet > connection > > I completely agree with Tom. A good fraction of all vulns out there rely on > the user taking the wrong action, and it's way common (just face the truth). > > How many people install cracked OSes? I was once incredulous that a person > willingly installed a virus because he claimed it was harmless (while the > anti-virus shouted "trojan"). > > Sometimes I get to fix people's computers. I'm always amazed by the amount > of crap I get in contact with. Hundreds of browser toolbars, antiviruses, > shareware, adware, trials, torrent clients, media players etc. > That not counting the local IT shops which format PCs replacing (typically) > Windows OS with a cracked one. > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Tom Grace<[email protected]> > wrote: > In a way having a requirement that end-users take some responsibility > for their own computer is a good thing. > Similar to prosecuting people for fraud if they fall for one of the cash > scams. > > On 06/22/2010 05:37 AM, Ivan . wrote: >> yep, your tax $$$ at work.... >> >> Don't forget there Internet filter as well.. With these rocket >> scientist running the show, what's there to worry about >> >> > http://blogs.news.com.au/techblog/index.php/news/comments/finally_theres_pro > tection_against_spams_and_scams >> >> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jubei Trippataka >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> They had a committee working on this for a year and that's the best they >>> could come up with? HAHAHAHA. >>> >>> Belinda Neal - With idiots like you and your colleagues tackling this > issue, >>> tax payers deserve to burn you at the stake. BTW... are you really a > du0d? >>> >>> -- >>> ciao >>> >>> JT >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
