Anonymous sources....how convenient! Don't waste our time, ok?
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Josey Yelsef <[email protected]> wrote: > I first noticed this business years ago when I set up a website for a > friend's forum. He was extremely appealed by the deal. After hosting with > them for a very short time he parted ways. At first I thought they were just > another lowly shared host. Recently, I checked back to see how this web host > innovated. > > Instead of innovation, such as cloud architecture, exchange or inhouse > solutions, they're making millions google bombing and spamming their > homepage, and are one of the most prolific corporate spammers I've seen. By > my estimates, they likely spent well-over 7 figures on blackhat SEO campaigns > which earned the #1 result for hosting on Google search. > > Further, They are Google bombing results like "Hostgator sucks" and > "Hostgator scam" to bury criticism and constantly policing blogs for any > critical comments. If it's a fraudulent bill, it was a mistake out of odds. > If it's an ex-employee, they'll say it's a personal grudge over incompetence > firing. > > What is most despicable about this business is their management and lackey > employees scour and attack people who have legitimate criticism of their > business. > > Real ex-employee reviews > > 1.) "Terrible company, stay away". 2010-10-28 > http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-HostGator-com-RVW690066.htm > http://bit.ly/cqTnB6 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toGFVrXM) > > 2.) "The 5/5 review was written by Hostgator management". 2010-10-28. > http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-HostGator-com-RVW598581.htm > http://bit.ly/99MpO5 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toGJpPo1) > > 3.) "Just Another Callcenter". 2010-10-28. > http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-HostGator-com-RVW562768.htm. > http://bit.ly/93ZDq3 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toGO2o9b) > > 4.) "Not disgruntled but disappointed". 2010-10-28. > http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-HostGator-com-RVW306863.htm > http://bit.ly/crwXrU Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toGUotjs) > > 5.) "#1 Reason for an IT Union". 2010-10-28. > http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-HostGator-com-RVW292019.htm > http://bit.ly/94v04q Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toGdxKeJ) > > 6.) EX-HOSTGATOR.COM EMPLOYEE SENTENCED FOR COMPUTER INTRUSION. 2010-10-28. > http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/wadeSent.pdf > http://bit.ly/beVXBK Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toHZOuFr) > > 7.) "Hostgator is a very unprofessional, and unethical company to work for." > 2010-10-28. http://rateyourjob-rateyourboss.com/?p=52 > http://bit.ly/bZDC7k Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toHjggqs) > > > ======================================== > > Consumer reviews: > > 1.) "Company is full of idiots". 2010-10-28. > http://www.ripoffreport.com/Web > Hosting/HostGator/hostgator-do-not-deal-with-hos-bpfa3.htm > http://bit.ly/aY0HX2 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toHrr2uP) > > 2.) "They claim they give unlimited bandwidth and ... claim anything to make > a sale". > 2010-10-28. > http://www.ripoffreport.com/web-hosting/hostgator/hostgator-they-claim-they-giv-75ce5.htm > http://bit.ly/9Ltl29 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toI0ZrID) > > 3.) "... They seem more like thieves". 2010-10-28. > http://www.ripoffreport.com/web-hosting/hostgator-com-llc/hostgator-com-llc-after-cancel-f4c8e.htm > http://bit.ly/dBAg5J Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toI7NCsP) > > ======================================== > > Here is a list of anonymous Host Gator employees sock puppeting and trolling > critical comments, scam and fraud allegations: > > 1.) Ex-employee harassed by hostgator's sockpuppet commenters. 2010-10-28. > http://www.googlelady.com/1281/exhostgator-employee/ > http://bit.ly/9ZGoz6 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toFY9HVi) > > 2.) "try spelling it CORRECTLY". 2010-10-28. > http://www.ripoffreport.com/advertising-deceptive/hostgator-hosting-co/hostgator-hosting-com-does-not-9f59a.htm > http://bit.ly/ci6dDJ Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toIBLwIi) > > 3.) hgfan sockpuppet. 2010-10-28. > http://www.hostingdiscussion.com/web-hosting-reselling/23460-hostgator-nightmare.html > http://bit.ly/d4CSCk Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toIIA6KR) > > ========================================= > > Legal threat to censor hostgator-sucks.commenters > > Host Gator takes a bite. Takedown threat. 2010-10-28. > http://www.chillingeffects.org/domain/notice.cgi?NoticeID=4029. > http://bit.ly/ai0Ne5 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5tpYhg16c) > > ========================================= > > Here is a list of Host gator google bombing with fake websites and > prolifically self-aggrandizing "sponsored conversations" to bury negative > reviews: > > 1.) "I think HostGator has been successful because it has innovated in the > industry while at the same time keeping to its roots as an honest web hosting > company that strives to deliver personal service." (As of October 28th, 2010, > Hostgator uses Cpanel) Hosting secrets revealed. > http://www.webhostingsecretrevealed.com/featured-articles/10-questions-with-hostgator/ > http://bit.ly/9cHueg Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toFiyzPP) > > 2.) "Hostgartor.com [sic] likes to brag about numbers", "Even though > Hostgator has their own building, it does not appear they have their own > server center, and they to [sic] like the first three companies I reviewed > that are also using theplanet.com.", "Even though Hostgator.com is only in > number 5th position, they probable [sic] should be in the top position at > webhostingstuff.com." 2010-10-28. > http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com/unlimited-hosting/hostgator-bad-web-host-read-honest-hostgator-review.html > http://bit.ly/9T4wpR Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toFua6jj) > > 3.) "They don’t have too many bells and whistles, marketing ploys, or > anything of the sort.". 2010-10-28. > http://www.clickfire.com/hostgator-review/ > http://bit.ly/IetFt Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toFzkmnH) > > 4.) "My only regret about Hostgator is that I didn’t join them earlier and > ignored all the good hostgator reviews for too long". 2010-10-28. > http://myeasyonlinepay.com/one-year-on-has-hostgator-lost-its-appeal/ > http://bit.ly/6hgOAH Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toGxxCpe) > > There literally thousands more. They have spent 6 or 7 figs burying negative > reviews, making them one of the top black hat spammers on the internet. This > is pure blackhat SEO. A sponsored conversation means Host gator paid > bloggers to write a puff piece, see sites like https://payperpost.com/. > Rarely do you see a legitimate client, out of 20 pages of sifting through > hostgator ads, almost 9/10 of them were bought through ad services. > > They will likely proffer it's by rogue affiliate advertisers. This is for the > most part untrue - they're not even pretending to hide it with affiliate or > referral links. They are that sloppy and obvious about it. > > Hostgator even claims their own spam campaign speaks in their favor them: > > "From the above number, only 1 out of every 10000 pages about HostGator says > that this hosting sucks. This is still quite good considering other hosts we > have looked at have way worst [sic] ratio.". 2010-10-28. > http://www.hostingsthatsuck.com/hostgator-sucks/ > http://bit.ly/bxV6w8 Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5tpYmmFZL) > > > ====================================== > > A Small Orange: Brent Oxley, a trust funder from Boca Raton Florida, owner of > hostgator bought a small orange. The owner of a small orange said: "ASO will > not be turned into a HostGator clone by any means. I am very interested in > continuing to develop ASO as a high-end hosting company that prides itself on > quality customer service." > > To which an ASO user responds: > > "I hope that's a promise :) HostGator seem to suck in a lot of newbies with > over-inflated packages for below-reasonable prices and almost certainly with > unfair conditions to stop you using it." > > ASO user bboard. 2010-10-28. > http://forums.asmallorange.com/topic/13626-how-will-the-hostgator-acquisition-impact-aso/ > http://bit.ly/bSaObj Accessed: 2010-10-28. > (Archived by WebCite® at http://www.webcitation.org/5toITkkXG) > > That is my fair and truthful review of hostgator. Haadquartered in Houston, > Texas. In 2010 it opened a satellite in Austin, Texas. 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