Ok, what happens then if we have a bug in sudo binary, and the box has both su and sudo binarys available... again, ill use sudo -g bug as example..... why are both needed, why not make one secure method to have sudoers... this is one area on linux i never have liked.
On 20 November 2011 06:44, <[email protected]> wrote: > Effective user id as a short answer; compare sudo whoami and su - whoami > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Kaminsky <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:36:47 > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Cc: Johan Nestaas<[email protected]>; > [email protected]<[email protected]>; > Olivier<[email protected]>; > [email protected]<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default > > What is the security differential between su and sudo bash? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 19, 2011, at 6:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and >> these are customers who have made an informed decision. >> >> Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as >> configuring a 'mortal account' (admittedly can be ignored in the preseed) >> and then the lack of perms on su; must use sudo. >> >> This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically >> for them. >> >> Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer >> installation a fantastic example) and people, especially long term linuxers- >> though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when >> everything was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile >> this as a flipping module? That's not freedom!" Being all too familiar. >> >> Just my tuppence worth anyway. >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Johan Nestaas <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:04:46 >> To: Olivier<[email protected]> >> Cc: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
