On 1/10/12 11:39 PM, Ian Hayes wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Laurelai<[email protected]> wrote: >> On 1/10/12 10:18 PM, Byron Sonne wrote: >>>> Don't piss off a talented adolescent with computer skills. >>> Amen! I love me some stylin' pwnage :) >>> >>> Whether they were skiddies or actual hackers, it's still amusing (and >>> frightening to some) that companies who really should know better, in >>> fact, don't. >>> >> And again, if companies hired these people, most of whom come from >> disadvantaged backgrounds and are self taught they wouldn't have as much >> a reason to be angry anymore. Most of them feel like they don't have any >> real opportunities for a career and they are often right. > [citation needed] > >> Microsoft hired some kid who hacked their network, it is a safe bet he isn't >> going >> to be causing any trouble anymore. > Are you proposing that we reward all such behavior with jobs? I've > always wanted to be a firefighter. Forget resumes, job applications > and interviews, I'm going to set people's houses on fire. By your > logic, an arsonist is not only the best person to combat other > arsonists, but due to his obviously unique insight into the nature of > fire, simply must know how best to fight a fire as opposed to someone > who went to school for years to learn the trade. > >> Talking about the trust issue, who >> would you trust more the person who has all the certs and experience >> that told you your network was safe or the 14 year old who proved him >> wrong? > This is asinine. WHY would I want to hire someone for a position of > trust that just committed a crime, or at the very least acted in an > unethical manner? More than anything, that person has proven that > while he *might* have the technical chops, he certainly lacks the > ethics and decision making skills to operate in the grown-up world. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ Because the ones with the so called ethics either lack the technical chops or lack the enthusiasm to find simple vulnerabilities. Not very ethical to take a huge paycheck and not do your job if you ask me.
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