On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Joel Esler <[email protected]> wrote: > Obviously they expect you to surrender the info in the sake of simplicity > and usefulness. > > They swear the can't read your stuff: > http://www.apple.com/apples-commitment-to-customer-privacy/ :)
Their own legal department tells us they are not trustworthy. Who do we believe: their legal department, or their press release? Jeff > On Oct 28, 2013, at 03:30 PM, PuNkErX w <[email protected]> wrote: > > I usually lurk the list but here's my take on it. Using iCloud to sync > everything is stupid if you care about privacy. Unless you don't mind all > your info (especially now that you can sync the keychain....) being out > there. > > As an old Apple "fanboy" Im disgusted but not surprised with the direction > they went. Thats why i got out of the Apple work when 10.7 dropped. > > I host an old macbook with 10.6 server that has iCal and address book > services to sync stuff between 10.9 laptop, 10.6 laptop, iphone and ipad. > It works for what i need but obviously it isnt for everyone. > > Im looking at other alternatives for all in one type deals but it seems > every "cloud" service pretty much sells your info in one shape way or form. > > So you dont need to use icloud at all but it appears you will need a third > party server to sync stuff. Yet another step back asswards for the > industry. > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:43, [email protected] wrote: > > The functionality of syncing contacts/calendar is MISSING in > iTunes...gone...poof...Casper...out of luck....plug in your iDevice on the > latest, then check it out...you can sync photos and music, but nothing > else...it's a bad scene. > > On Monday, October 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM, "Joel Esler" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > What happens when you refuse to sign up for iCloud? > > <sent from my iCloud account> > > -- > Joel Esler > > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 08:09 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > A warning (disclosure) to you Apple people....if you're planning to sync > your shiny iDevice with Mavericks, you will be FORCED to use iCloud (syncing > from your iDevice to your iPuter is now gone). I suspect this is one of the > reasons why Mavericks was a "free" upgrade. Apple probably figured the $40 > they'd get from the sale of the OS is less then when they'd get with have > your calendar and your contacts within easy reach. Per their policy: > > What personal information we collect > > When you create an Apple ID, register your products, apply for commercial > credit, purchase a product, download a software update, register for a class > at an Apple Retail Store, or participate in an online survey, we may collect > a variety of information, including your name, mailing address, phone > number, email address, contact preferences, and credit card information. > > When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products, > send gift certificates and products, or invite others to join you on Apple > forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people > such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number. > > > How we use your personal information > > The personal information we collect allows us to keep you posted on Apple’s > latest product announcements, software updates, and upcoming events. It also > helps us to improve our services, content, and advertising. > > > Nice not to have choices ;) > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
