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wow turkey and commi actually agree on one thing. >Hi. > >Guys, this is another post from hushmail. I wonder if this mail > >provider collecting morons or what? > >Besides, I tried to unsubscribe twice to THIS list, what happen >ed to my requests? >I got mail in return that it awaits response by admins. > >I am fed up with jerks like "theblackfist", or whatever this fi >st**** call himself. > >There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting CV or list of yo >ur >relevant knowledge,especially in cases when you are looking for > new >job, etc. At least it's common in many countries, it makes thin >gs simple. > >If you find amusing facts of those certifications, I don't, sin >ce what >I see is: > >Shawn has experience of at least 4 years, and for those 4 years > amount >of those certifications is good enough to be on professional le >vel. > >If you are leet, blackie, why don't YOU show us what YOU can an >d list >of YOUR achievements? I bet you're still newbie student, or som >ething >like that. At least your way of challenge speaks for itself. >Besides, being "leet" is all relative to what you compare to. > >You can't know everything, information flow goes too fast, so a >ccept >the fact and stop being ignorant sucker. > >Cheers, >Mik- > > >Hello theblackfist, > >Monday, September 23, 2002, 6:48:54 PM, you wrote: > >>>> Evalutation of Shawn Moyer >>>> or "Why anonymity is preferable" > >>>Fair enough. You are absolutely 100% correct that I shouldn't > f >>>ly the >>>company flag when posting. Thanks for pointing this out. This > w >>>ill be my >>>last mail here via work. You win. > >>>> Subject harbors dissident tendencies, but is held in check >by >>>> comfort levels provided by corporate sponsor. > >>>Subject chooses to work in a useful and interesting field whi >ls >>>t avoiding >>>employment with FUD-mongering security snake oil software / c >on >>>sulting firms >>>and other shady organizations. > >thc> Hrrm. Shady orginizations like this one? : > >thc> <klip> > >thc> We have the expertise to match your skills and experience > with >thc> the needs of our client employers in the Commercial, Feder >al, >thc> Military, and Intelligence communities. ( from http://www. >net-connect.com/ ) >thc> </klip> > >thc> <klip> > > >thc> So when does the broadcast storm happen? Are you sure the >inside >thc> interface on the other box isn't up with the same IP as th >e primary box? >thc> If so this would account for the broadcast storm. Otherwis >e I don't see >thc> how this could happen. > >thc> - --shawn > >thc> s h a w n m o y e r > >thc> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >thc> </klip> > > >thc> or this one ? : > >thc> Naval Intelligence Professionals - Central Coast Chapter >thc> web.nps.navy.mil/~cccnip/ >thc> SAG Assessment of Iran hrrrm. >thc> you are scaring me now. >thc> but fuck that. what is a fist if it doesnt >thc> punch bad guys. > >thc> http://web.nps.navy.mil/~relooney/4141_ClassBriefings.htm > >thc> is also informative about our dear netsys spook-troll > > >thc> p473n73d 7bf g3wgl3 t3kn|qu3 br|ng5 7r345ur3 : > > >thc> Shawn Moyer >thc> Project Lead - Information Security >thc> Reinsurance Group of America, Inc. > >thc> COMPANY DATA: >thc> COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:REINSURANCE GROUP OF AMERICA INC >thc> CENTRAL INDEX KEY:0000898174 >thc> STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:ACCIDENT & HEALTH INSUR >ANCE [6321] >thc> IRS NUMBER:431627032 >thc> STATE OF INCORPORATION:MO >thc> FISCAL YEAR END:1231 > >thc> FILING VALUES: >thc> FORM TYPE:4 >thc> SEC ACT:1934 Act >thc> SEC FILE NUMBER:001-11848 >thc> FILM NUMBER:02755288 > >thc> BUSINESS ADDRESS: >thc> STREET 1:1370 TIMBERLAKE MANOR PARKWAY >thc> CITY:CHESTERFIELD >thc> STATE:MO >thc> ZIP:63017-6039 >thc> BUSINESS PHONE:6367367000 > >thc> MAIL ADDRESS: >thc> STREET 1:1370 TIMBERLAKE MANOR PARKWAY >thc> CITY:CHESTERFIELD >thc> STATE:MO >thc> ZIP:63017-6039 > >thc> CHASTISE : If you have indeed disconnected with the intel >community, > >thc> ( and I dont believe anyone truly does) you should be asha >med of yourself > >thc> your resume' here says : > >thc> CCSA - Checkpoint Certified Sec. Admin 5/01 >thc> 9th Usenix Security Symposium 8/00 >thc> CheckPoint CCSA / CCSE Training 2/00 >thc> Cisco CCDA Primer Training 11/99 >thc> CCNA - Cisco Certified Network Associate 10/99 >thc> Cisco Frame Relay Lab / Training 8/99 >thc> Cisco CCNA Primer Training 6/99 >thc> Cisco VPN Solutions Seminar / Lab 4/99 >thc> Cisco LAN/WAN Router Lab / Training 2/99 >thc> CompTia A+ Certification 7/98 > >thc> Until at least as recent as february of 2001 you worked as > >thc> Senior Web Security Consultant at Mastercard International > >thc> in St. Louis (seems like a good place for an intel plant), > and you have given substandard instruction to the american military and intel >community if your negligence @ Reinsurance Group of >thc> America is any indicator ( and yes I say negligence becaus >e we all saw from >thc> the lesson that brutha bunny taught secfocus , even a full >-of-shit triviality (like 10k wizard - see sunday sermon) that doesnt reside on your >server can get you OWNED) > >thc> There are 3 possibilities in our all seeing eyes Mr. Moyer >. > >thc> 1.) You are a complete moron who has no clue about what ha >s been, >thc> and what will continue to go on, ( see Theo the rat, >thc> ryan pusstule [Blue Hoar],fate-labias, and a multitude >thc> of other charlatans ) or maybe had no idea that the ascend >ed >thc> ones resided on this list. I doubt it. > >thc> 2.) You assumed that all the "trolls" were children uncapa >ble of mounting >thc> such a knive-tongued attack on your credibility ( vali >d whichever >thc> way it goes) > >thc> 3.) If you are indeed still with intel what the hell is yo >ur problem! It REALLY >thc> FUCKING DISTURBS ME that I can find your home address >and number. AGHHHHH >thc> ( I withheld it) Jeezuz. don't you realize that a majo >rity of the world >thc> doesn't like us? ( yes, I am happy San Antonio reside >nt) You people need to >thc> evaluate all of your policies. I am NOT a fan of guv b >ut it is bad time now. >thc> I don't like the idea of chewing on chunky bio-haz coo >kies for breakfast. > > > > > > >>>Oh, and trust me, the comfort le >>>vels are very >>>minimal in comparison to a lot of the InfoSec rock stars out >th >>>ere, and >>>certainly not enough to hold any dissident tendencies in chec >k. >>> I've just >>>found positive channels for mine, that's all. > >thc> Dunno your dossier looks pretty fucking "rockstar" to me > > >>>You have to offer something beyond these absolutes... Who *is >* >>>it acceptable >>>to work for? It is acceptable to work, right? Who are the goo >d >>>guys? Please >>>inform. > >thc> The jury remains out on that one clyde. > > >>>> Sean [sic] write >>>> personal mail to me and call attention to himself as well a >s >>>> he employer Reinsurance Group of America > >>>If "call attention" equates to replying with a songlist in re >sp >>>onse to >>>yours, again, fair enough. I guess you're really not a Screec >hi >>>ng Weasel >>>fan. > >thc> Actually I liked a majority of your song sharing. David By >rne rox. > >>>> let them know what you think of a respectable co. like RGA >al >>>lowing >>>someone >>>> like shawn, who is obviously a terrorist, to remain on the >pa >>>yroll. > >>>Terrorist, no, although my hat is growing more white and less > g >>>ray by the >>>moment, thanks to you. You have no idea how icky that feels. >thc> grrm .guv greyhat > >thc> Lighten up. It was a joke meant to summon up visions of ti >ps occiferz >thc> busting down your door. > > > >>>> Note to Shawn: this is for your own good. you are not your >kh >>>akis. > >>>I prefer moleskin, actually. I'd love to understand what this > c >>>omment means. > >thc> Fight Club > > >thc> You are not your job. >thc> You are not the money in your bank account. >thc> You are not the car you drive. You are not how much money >thc> is in your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. >thc> You are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world. >thc> - -------------------- >thc> You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique sno >wflake. >thc> You are the same decaying organic matter as everything els >e. >thc> - -------------------- > >thc> Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar, >thc> single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave >thc> Cordon bleu hobby-kit. Shampoo- conditioner combos. >thc> Sample-packaged mouthwash. The people I meet on flights? >thc> They're single-serving friends.You are not your job. You >thc> are not the money in your bank account. You are not the >thc> car you drive. You are not how much money is in your walle >t. >thc> You are not your fucking khakis. You are the all-singing, >thc> all-dancing crap of the world. > >>>> *__*> anti-sec, anti-establishment, pro-individualist, > >>>Then how come my individualism gets me singled out? Or is it >on >>>ly >>>individualism on your terms that's acceptable? Think hard bef >or >>>e you answer. >>>I'd love to discuss this over beers sometime rather than in a > p >>>ublic forum, >>>but the point is, FWIW, your animosity is grossly misdirected >. > >thc> I wonder at times, by what I have read of yours, and your >course materials >thc> . Your playlist was in your favor. 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