> However, it's highly surprising that the Apache developers call the
> iDefense approach "reasonable disclosure".  Is it reasonable to
> disclose critical information on new security vulnerabilities to
> potential but paying blackhats *on* *the* *same* *day* *the* *vendors*
> *are* *notified*?


I think what the apache developers might be saying may sound something
closer to ' I/We think that this type of disclosure is more realistic' (

Assuming that their was a blackhat that developed the hack and it had been
0day for a while with that particular blackhat/or blackhatters....)

-Dan

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