Yes, but the real question here still remains: What is Richard smoking and where can I get some of it?
Kevin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hellNbak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Georgi Guninski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Richard M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Lock business practices "security-by-obscurity" for 150 years > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > > > Richard, you seem to be smoking something bad today. > > If you look at your trollish analogy, from the quote above you will see that > > such problems are disclosed "in locksmith trade journals" at least. > > And who cares if micro$osft relies on obscurity? > > > > Georgi, you are letting your immature hatred for Microsoft cloud your > vision, but what else is new. Yes, this issue has been known for 150 > years by locksmiths and they didn't understand the security risks or they > did and didn't care because they didn't think that anyone else would know > about it. But, as with most things this wasn't the case. Others, outside > of the locksmithing industry no doubt knew about this as well. With no > one in the locksmithing industry running out and telling anyone this > would have made a nice little secret to hang on to. > > So yes, this was security through obscurity. Without public disclosure > there would be little motivation for lock companies to retool and create > better locks. > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > "I don't intend to offend, I offend with my intent" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.nmrc.org/~hellnbak > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
