>Nopes. Im not a part of the security industry itself, im a programmer. >If it was my choice there would be no industry coming out of this cause >we, the programmers, would be given the time to test our apps before >releasing them, we would be given time to program it decently, not with >8 or 24 or 72 hour deadlines hanging over our shoulders at every time.
Ah well put more time to the code and less into the rants =) >How'bout a filtering router? Access rules? Oh wait, I guess you haven't >heard about that before? Umm fraid i have heard of those =) but then again you are part of the industry so what your saying is every average home user who listen to a bit of music and plays the odd game should be going to fairly extreme measures to secure thier home pc. A filtering router? for a kids home pc that gets to connected to a laptop once in a while with a bit of crossover, thats just insanely ott/overkill imo. >Honestly I think its bitchy f*cking over a 13yr-olds puter. There aren't >excuses for such actions. We are all on this list to fight shit like >that by going full disclosure hoping vendors patch the holes, hoping >people secure their computers, or even hope that company sites keep >their security up, so no, I don't encourage such actions, nor do I >approve of them. Point was it wasnt a hole, he didnt actully own anything, he deleted a few files in an shared dir that well was allowed to be modfied, thats as far as he got. But Still decided to uploaded 2 dodgey files and a jpg like he was some super hacker. Just thought it was funny someone on a mailing list claiming to be a security professional would consider that kinda attitude professional and well err hacking lol. (on lighter note found them and ill proper nosey later on, one appears to be some webserver/ircbot trojan anyways from googling with the filename) . _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
