----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Stortz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Please Vote Today
> gee, of all the groups of people in the world, i thought the people on this list would be smarter than to trust any thing to an online >vote! talk about poorly constructed, i only voted 4 times, and it wasn't hard, i didn't even have to do it from different accounts. i resisted the tempation mor than one test , delete cookie, use proxy, vote again. ( yes I voted 2 times for myself, you may take off one vote ) > i've been followed at least twice, by fairly clumsy folks, flushed them out both times with basic techniques. the scary thing is that the >second time 3 cars were involved. i've always hoped it was related to a former nut ball friend, and not a government agency, but who >knows, some of these clowns excel in arrogance and stupidity, a dangerous blend. As far as legality.. if something like this http://itpapers.zdnet.com/whitepapers/papergateway.asp?WID=544858564955 were firmly in place ( which they are in gov and monetary infrastructure systems ) thins would be better for the business sector on the net. I do not nor have I ever have even so much as pinged a goverment, banking or other critical subsystem. I will never condone unethical, DoS, fraud or any other type of malicious behaivor. And we all could keep "hacking" errr Researching Security Flaws. And I will be more quiet, I just cant stand to see a "professional" speak down to another security enthusiast. So please if we can keep demeaning and personality traits out of future discussions I think we all will find a more active, informative and fun list. morning_wood _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
