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> From: ATD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] (no subject)
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> 
> Guys, 
>       I'd like to start a thread on IDS solutions and 
> systems, both commercial and non.

No need.  There's been an ongoing discussion on the topic for over a
month on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list.  Just read the archives -
or better yet, subscribe.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/

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